chanduv23
11-10 06:13 AM
And shat exactly is the point of this discussion again? More ranting?
You know, maybe few people have noticed this, but when it comes to selecting the "lawyer", you have to pay, if you want your own lawyer. A lot of ppl are very happy that the company pays. So people want their cake and eat it too. They want the company to pay for the lawyer, BUT BUT they want the lawyer to work for them and even let them, when they can leave the employer without negatively affecting their GC process.
The problem is not just the lawyers or the HR ppl guys. The problem is also partly US. If we were to insist that WE pay for the process and we hire our own lawyers, we would have a LOT more control on the process. However, I understand that not all of us have that option, but then those of us who do not have that option, have to thank their stars that they did not end up paying close to $10K for this whole process. Face the facts guys, if your company is paying ur lawyer, ur lawyer is working for them NOT you. Your company and NOT you is the lawyer's client, so he is LEGALLY REQUIRED to serve them and NOT you.
We curse the USCIS everyday (I do too), but we have to admit, they have done an EXCELLENT job these past few months and almost everyone I know has received their EADs, APs and FP notices within the stipulated 90 day period. Let us commend the USCIS for that. We criticized and cursed them when the the time had come to do so. Now they have done a good job so let us commend them for it. Some USCIS centers are even doing actual finger printing on Saturdays (in the state of CT. My friend actually did his on a Saturday). They do not have to do any of this, BUT THEY ARE DOING IT.
About HR, again we all hate them, but they do the best they can. Ah what the heck i'll give you guys this one ;) Go ahead curse away :p. Although I will say this, some HR ppl are rather helpful. I have worked for 2 companies and touch wood both helped me a lot with paperwork and were quite prompt.
I would say USICS and Lawyer are OK, but HR - no way. Very few HR are helpful. Usueally HR in small companies are quite helpful. HR is the most influential person in an organization. Never never assume HR helps you. If HR talks sweet - then it is most dangerous - they can mess with your lives. The HR in my first company was the best and I have never seen such people anywhere else - he was good because he was basically and MBA with HR experence. He used to take independent decisions and used to do "what he feels is right" and manage his bosses well - such are rare find. Most HRs are difficult and dangerous to handle. If something goes wrong and you approach the HR, HR "though is supposed to help you" will pretend as if he/she is helping you but will work against you.
It may sound silly but in one of the company I worked, I had issues with the travel agent who was giving me tough time (mine was a travel job) and the HR screwed me big time because of her friendships with the travel agency (very popular one) whereas I thought HR would actually help sort issues.
Many people fail to realise that the corporate world is very selfish - companies want you for your skill - when they give you a job it means they are paying for time and skill and they do not have any ties with you. You must know how to play your cards and always watch your back.
Lawyers and USCIS are just external entities like the travel agent I mentioned above. They will be happy to work with you if they have a choice. So it is your choice.
You know, maybe few people have noticed this, but when it comes to selecting the "lawyer", you have to pay, if you want your own lawyer. A lot of ppl are very happy that the company pays. So people want their cake and eat it too. They want the company to pay for the lawyer, BUT BUT they want the lawyer to work for them and even let them, when they can leave the employer without negatively affecting their GC process.
The problem is not just the lawyers or the HR ppl guys. The problem is also partly US. If we were to insist that WE pay for the process and we hire our own lawyers, we would have a LOT more control on the process. However, I understand that not all of us have that option, but then those of us who do not have that option, have to thank their stars that they did not end up paying close to $10K for this whole process. Face the facts guys, if your company is paying ur lawyer, ur lawyer is working for them NOT you. Your company and NOT you is the lawyer's client, so he is LEGALLY REQUIRED to serve them and NOT you.
We curse the USCIS everyday (I do too), but we have to admit, they have done an EXCELLENT job these past few months and almost everyone I know has received their EADs, APs and FP notices within the stipulated 90 day period. Let us commend the USCIS for that. We criticized and cursed them when the the time had come to do so. Now they have done a good job so let us commend them for it. Some USCIS centers are even doing actual finger printing on Saturdays (in the state of CT. My friend actually did his on a Saturday). They do not have to do any of this, BUT THEY ARE DOING IT.
About HR, again we all hate them, but they do the best they can. Ah what the heck i'll give you guys this one ;) Go ahead curse away :p. Although I will say this, some HR ppl are rather helpful. I have worked for 2 companies and touch wood both helped me a lot with paperwork and were quite prompt.
I would say USICS and Lawyer are OK, but HR - no way. Very few HR are helpful. Usueally HR in small companies are quite helpful. HR is the most influential person in an organization. Never never assume HR helps you. If HR talks sweet - then it is most dangerous - they can mess with your lives. The HR in my first company was the best and I have never seen such people anywhere else - he was good because he was basically and MBA with HR experence. He used to take independent decisions and used to do "what he feels is right" and manage his bosses well - such are rare find. Most HRs are difficult and dangerous to handle. If something goes wrong and you approach the HR, HR "though is supposed to help you" will pretend as if he/she is helping you but will work against you.
It may sound silly but in one of the company I worked, I had issues with the travel agent who was giving me tough time (mine was a travel job) and the HR screwed me big time because of her friendships with the travel agency (very popular one) whereas I thought HR would actually help sort issues.
Many people fail to realise that the corporate world is very selfish - companies want you for your skill - when they give you a job it means they are paying for time and skill and they do not have any ties with you. You must know how to play your cards and always watch your back.
Lawyers and USCIS are just external entities like the travel agent I mentioned above. They will be happy to work with you if they have a choice. So it is your choice.
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