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Is this what anti's call us? I think most of us are not just cheap labour. Definitely paid more that the average wage levels.

No. I am comparing apples to apples. An american with your skills and qualifications would be paid more than you are being paid, at most places.

If you are comparing with average wages, it doesnt make sense. Are you being paid more than americans with same skills and qualifications, if yes then you are not cheap but I doubt.

Great observations and for once an objective analysis of CA.
nozerd, what is pmt ? Also did you find out what are the total taxes that one has to pay say on an income of 100000 single/ 200000 married couple ? That would be very helpful if calculating one's take home pay.

Folks,
I just got back from Canada yesterday. I am a PR holder landed in 2005. I had gone for my 8-11 yrs H1 stamping. Needless to say this trip I was very vigilant and observant about Toronto. Here are some thoughts.

1) When you enter Canada they will ask you to fill a customs/immigration form. On the form one question that is asked is " When were you last in Canada" also the form asks for your "current permanant address". So in my case I was last in Canada in May 2005 and I entered last week it aroused suspision. The officer asked me if I was within 2 to 5 yr room. I told him I was and I was using this trip to plan for our move. So after some questioning he let me in. I guess if that date was March 2007 instead of 2005 he may not have questioned me as much.

2) As far as lifestyle and products there is no products not available there. Every food item and consumer good is available in Canada. The grocery stores and their shelves look the same. Since the population is low most iotems are made in US and imported. Only way to know its a Canadian market is because by law all products need to be marked in English and French.

3) Malls etc are the same as US. Eaton Center or Vaughn Mills is no different then The Galleria or Katy Mills in Houston.

4) Housing is what you pay for it. It is definitely more expensive than Texas and Southern US but cheaper than California or NY. Rents are cheaper in run down areas and expensive in good areas ( duh !). In a major commercial area in a middle class building I was quoted $ 1000 for a bachelor and $ 1,200 for a 1 bedroom apt but this was all bills paid.

5) Jobs are fewer than US. Best thing to do is take a transfer with your company if they have offices there ( I know of 4 ppl who have done that). Basically if you have a US, Canadian or UK education you will be fine but iof your education is purely from India you may have a tougher time. A good option is to find a job in a border city and commute daily ( Windsor/Detroit or Foret Erie/Buffalo). I think this is a very good option if you can get a job in Detroit or Buffalo.

6) Taxes are high. I was told by many that whatever taxes you pay in US double them. Sales tax is 15% in ON where it is 8% in TX. Income tax is also higher. Higher taxes are a fact of life in Canada (no ifs ands or buts). In return you have a country where there is no fiscal or budgetary deficit and a very well funded social security system ( unlike US). You also have benefits like 9 months paid maternity leave, a pmt every month for every child you have and medical benefits.

7) Awesome public transport system. Gas is $ 1.04 or so a litrer when I was there. Insurance is expensivbe but not topo bad if you have a US license and good solid 5 yr US driving record. However its ridiculously high for non US or European immigrants.

So bottom line Canada is not US and comparing it to US is not fair. However its the closesnt to the US you will get in any other country. Its everyones personal decision and no one forces anyone to apply or mopve there. One could always takje a vacation/leave of absense and go try for a job there. Or else work in detroit/buffalo. Now detroit/buffalo is in US can you find job there ??????? or are they doomed too because of proximity to Canada:rolleyes:

One important point from the document: If employer can not directly control/supervise his employee's work and then H1B new petition/extension may not be approved.

Are these provisions new? I am not aware of the previous laws reg H1bs that is why I am asking. Previously employer did not need to have direct supervision?

Vdlrao

Appreciate your thoughtful and encouraging posts. Continuing with Ron Gotcher's line of reasoning:

"It is worth mentioning that the CIS has never adjudicated more than 85,000 EB AOS cases in a single fiscal year - though this year it is possible they may process as many as 110,000 if they go all out. Keep this fact, together with the size of the backlog, in mind when trying to estimate how long it will take them to get to your case when your priority date becomes current."

How do you reconcile USCIS productivity with the number of visas that are available? In other words, although there may be sufficient numbers available to move the priority dates forward in the next fiscal year, USCIS can only adjudicate a limited number of cases per year.

Till now USCIS used to hide behind Name Check as stumbling block and reason for the low number of EB 485's approvel. But now it is not an issue.

They will be in great pressure to go all out and do the job, just like they did during July fiasco when they approved 60,000 I485's in one month.

I'm more concerned about this:

(2) A permanent labor certification involving a specific job offer
is valid only for the particular job opportunity, the alien named on
the original application (unless a substitution was approved prior to
[effective date of the final rule]), and the area of intended
employment stated on the Application for Alien Employment Certification
(ETA Form 750) or the Application for Permanent Employment
Certification (ETA Form 9089).


Does this actually say that unless the substitution is approved before the rule becomes effective, the labor cert. would be invalidated?

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very inappropriate for this site..we are fighting not giving up

I never asked you for your plan! you are just copy pasting the same material to all Donors and Senior members. Just makes it look more like a planned agenda.
so you're saying your job was only to start a fight on IV between EB2 and EB3, and you have no ideas?
Also you are continuously making a lot of veiled negative comments againt IV.
Mr TonyHK

for all purpose you and getgc are the same so please read my reply top him and apply to yourselves

and yes those comments against IV members like you (Not IV but just people like you) are NOT vieled comments. They are subtle and i am not sure whether you know anout subtlety or not. But since you say that i am continously making vieled comments ERGO you understand them so my message got across

Now please do not waste my time by replying with drivel. If you have something constructive to say say it or stop responsind. Like the otehr person (GetGC) you might also get a good night sleep

And there is nothing vieled about the above statement, so if i do not se any reply from you i would understand you got it

If a person is making lot of money through this e-commerce business why is he shopping in cheap Walmart? Why do they drive cheap cars? Beats me.

Very well said & I just feel the same...I have already lost hope on this GC and can not predict how long its going to take but for sure before I leave this place and go back to home country I will contribute my best of share in this fight for justice and full support...count me in with out any doubt!!

The current situation is a gross voilation of the constitutional right of employment at will. This amounts to Involuntary servitude which is a more techincal term for slavery. Read yourself the definition of both and make your own judgement.

In my view (though crazy and totaly impractical) the law suit should be against all the employers because they are the one who represent Govt/USCIS in processing our Green cards. Employers told us that we will process your greencard and you will be a PR in x number of years and now that x is infinite.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will)

At-will employment is a doctrine of American law that defines an employment relationship in which either party can terminate the relationship with no liability if there was no express contract for a definite term governing the employment relationship. Under this legal doctrine:

“ any hiring is presumed to be "at will"; that is, the employer is free to discharge individuals "for good cause, or bad cause, or no cause at all," and the employee is equally free to quit, strike, or otherwise cease work.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Involuntary_servitude :

Involuntary servitude is a United States legal and constitutional term for a person laboring against that person's will to benefit another, under some form of coercion. While laboring to benefit another occurs in the condition of slavery, involuntary servitude does not necessarily connote the complete lack of freedom experienced in chattel slavery; involuntary servitude may also refer to other forms of unfree labor. Involuntary servitude is not dependent upon compensation or its amount.

I am ready to commit $25 for the initial consultation with Rajiv or some other lawyer. I have no qualms about raising my commitment if there is need.



Even I am ready to put in $ 25 for the first consultation with Rajiv khanna or any other Lawyer IV core wants to go with. And if IV plans to go ahead with class action lawsuit as per requirement will raise my monetary commitment. please PM me if IV core plans to go ahead.

"If you read the history of immigration this country you will see that such measures are typically taken with restriction in mind not diversity."

--Any country's immigration policy has to have some control measures built into it. I cannot imagine any country opening its gates wide open for the entire world to migrate into her without any limitations. So the question is, whom to "restrict" and whom to allow? This leads to the same argument, do you see this "restriction" as discrimination? There are others who see as fair "reservation" for them.

"Diversity is the nice sounding cloak."

--True. Every concept has been used and abused.

"There is a definite fear that FB will bring in many mexican migrants ( "chain migration") and the country quota holds that back imho. you think it's because of indian programmers? It was made long before those existed. remember we are a minuscule number- don't feel so important- the programmers are about 2% of all immigrants. 11% is all EB, half are families, half again are techies- not all those are programmers. do the math."

--I did not say EB quota system was framed due to high influx of indian programmers. You missed the whole point.


"Also remember that 50,000 Gc are given a year by lottery for "diversity". as a result more bangladeshis get Gc in a year than indians on EB. so why do we need the country quota in EB again?"

--Good question. If we look at what qualifies a country to be included in the lottery program (oversubscription etc?), it would again lead to the "balancing" intent with regards to immigration.


"To the person bringing up caste system and fences, here is my proposal.
i am a physician, i am being held behind hoardes of techies who can easily have PD's much before mine since i am training and working longer and the J1 holds me back. 12 years here and no where in the line...so i should get a fast track too. let's have a cap for the techies...hey it looks great from my side of the fence...i'm sure you will agree that i should be pushed up the line."

--Precisely why I said your viewpoint would differ depending on which side of the fence you are.

"either it's wrong or right. the caste system is wrong, from every side of the fence. it may benefit some and hurt others. but it's wrong, wrong and wrong.
same for this country quota. sure it helps some, and looks good from "their side of the fence". that does not change the fact that it is wrong."

--You are opining that it is wrong. You cannot state that it is a fact.

"none of this is an argument for a legal approach. just responding to stuff here."

--Same here. I appreciate your response though.

You don't want to give any credit to 'Modi' than by your logic, Chandrababu Naidu shouldn't be give credit of 'Andhra' turnaround, Vajpayee shouldn't be given credit for Infrastructure turnaround...In India Politics & Politicians are so important, until they are pro-work, nothing works. UPA govt's attitude was sit & watch for Orders from 10 Janpath, so all of us know how they performed..A person who assists in the murder of people whom he has taken an oath to protect, cannot be really thinking about the country or for its development. By saying that HE is responsible for the development is clearly under estimating the capabilities of the gujrati people. The gujratis and rajasthanis are leaders in creating wealth and they did that for thousands of years successfully with world's envy before this ugly Indian came into picture. With your logic fodder eating Lalu is the smartest politician ever born....remember his $20Billion revenue he is bringing in from railways....never heard of from any sector...leave alone the ever losing railways...the only thing lalu can be given credit for is...not stopping the elite civil services managing directors and the academia (IIM, ISB) from doing their work...which they have been trying to for several decades....so I dont think the theory is right that one person (call him black spot of India) had done something....when each individual in the state is born with the blood which carries enterpreneurship.....kudos to all gujaratis....

Yes, I wonder too. The new memo with the 180 day rule for FBI name check may create a considerable demand for visa numbers and could slow things down.

If the current EB3-ROW move is any indication one can rely on, I think you will be current in next month's bulletin. I bet you can't wait.

I wonder what kind of move we might see for eb3 -row next month.

Do you need any help? We asked others to give their input and they are doing it here. Let us know how else we can help you.

Firstly, we need to identify all issues as bullet points. This is the outline/skelton. Then, we choose words to express the bullet points.

These issues were mentioned in the 100 page other thread. Please scan it and post all issues in this thread. I will keep adding them to my original post. Check the time updated on that post to make sure that I have included your issue.

Since Zoe Lofgren is also saying that it may be illegal, looks like it may be illegal. Zoe worked in USCIS before.

Just woke up. Good Morning!

I think, it is too light a sentence for the crook

hehehe, i dont think the sentence is too light - the US Prison system has so many jokes about the kinds of characters inside them...Hope this mandalapa guy gets a 'great' roomie - Once he comes out he would think twice about 'screwing' genuine GC applicants then - know what i mean??!!!!

Visa number retrogression has no basis in the number of I 485s received. It is based on the number approved.
In the current melee, it will be a huge number of 485s applied, it does not mean the 485s will be approved any quicker.
Hence I am not sure where you all are getting these rumors from.

I'm enjoying this thread more than I enjoyed the predictions one. I'm imagining a qucikstar star reading this thread and smiling to myself. My wife thinks I'm reading a joke on the internet.

Keep them coming guys.

psaxena ..... Are you obsessed with GC? This thread is about amway not immigration. Try to learn differentiating

You need to Grow up instead of saying others. Use your common sense next time you post such things, Read thread topic before writing anything.



Wait a min , how much had you?? Your status is Member and Kaushal's is a Donor.. wait a min let me think who is donating and who is a FREELOADER here.

The guy is doing something to make his life better, atleast making an attempt to do something better, why do you losers are trying to demotivate and shoot him down.

No work is small or big , good or bad , work is work.. you wanna do it , just do it , else walk to out. Do not exhibit the desi attitude "I won't do it as what someone will say and also do not let any one else do it." Grow up.

Question about EB2 vs EB3 dates.

My case - EB3 12/2001
My wife - EB2 12/2004

Should I adjust my case with her? what are the chances. Or is it worthwhile waiting for my EB3 and adjust her in that.
Also do I need to re-apply for new EAD/AP because adjusting in the other case. thanks!

I value Mr Unitednations posts as he provides us with the opposing point of view. That is absolutely critical. It would help us strategize and plan.

This has been a very valueable thread. It would be very nice if something positive can result from this. (I can't think of anything. Help me out if you can.)

I agree that his arguments are valuable...

And I believe that those must be countered point to point...
You see... our target membership audience consists of very intelligent people..They come to this site and read UnitedNations arguments...If they accept those arguments ... what would be the net result.???...They would just go away....It gets directly in the way of our efforts.....

That is the reason for this whole shoot out.....

I am finally moving to canada in 2-3 months. Deadline for landing is March 3rd 2007.

I am done with US Green Card and can not take this stress any more. Starting to sell my house and other stuff soon.