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I just wondering seeing these estimated numbers, with out having a proper information, for the given years.

Vdlrao,

You are admired a lot for bringing in hope for lot of people with your EB2 prediction thread, can you jump in and throw some numbers here please if you think the numbers quoted are out of way, i understand this is time consuming but since you already did your homework last time around it should take you few minutes to come up with some realistic numbers.

Zimbabwean dollars.:D:D:D

With your attitude, you will not even become millionaire in Zimbabwean dollars.:D:D:D

The EAD/AC21 is still only available to those who are July 07 filers. There are many who have missed the oppurtunity. What many people are asking for is for something such that anyone can change a job after some given time, irrespective of Visa number availability. Even for those with EAD's, you are still restricted to be in the same field. So if you want a career move and do an MBA or acquire new skills to change your career, you cannot do that (unless EAD is for a dependent). If this is not pigeoning people, what is.

No point trying to get EAD for non AOS filers.

We should rather ask for faster processing of applications, transparency and more accountability.

EAD also has lot of restrictions and our goal should be faster green cards through faster processing and more visa numbers.

After participating and running so many campaigns on IV, it may not be a bad idea to run a campaign to addrss the same

Just like we successfuly eradicate "SMALLPOX", we can do something like eradicate "AMMWAY MENACE"

Reqruit volunteers who would act like ammway victims

Volunteers will collect all information about this ammway guy, his picture (so easy with BB, iphone etc..) , his location , his manners etc....

Post all their information on a website.

Have a mobile app wherein one can key in some details about a ammway guy and gets a response back.

Make a database of al these people - ridicule them openly on the website - circulate the website to all websites so that others see them.

They will then realise how much they are hated for what they are and what they do.

At some stage, this menace will stop.

So with Oct 07...new year starts for the Visa gain...so will the dates starting moving forward by Nov07

Dates are already current. How much forward you want these dates to move. I don't think it will go in future :)

Because no other indian guy will call tamil as arava...In fact we hear it for the first time and no one knows or cares what it means.

That is not a Sri Lankan word either. That is the first time I heard it myself.

Admins - can some one please close this thread. This is thread is neither about immigration nor will anything good come out of this.

yetanotherguyinline,

You may not care, but many members do care about what's happening in India.

Need more titles!

Most persons don't know what USCIS is. I did not know about USCIS/DOS/DOL... until after 1 year in retrogression!


"The US govt. does a number on High Skilled Immigrants"

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5994&page=9

India of course. I am here for the same reason that you are - India sucks.

At least India gave you the oppertunity to develop "High Skill" which can be accepted by USA and so you are here. If India might not have given you that oppertunity then Would it be able for you to rant on this board?

Here is what I researched and found out-

From the data for India

For Permanent applications 2004 => Reduction in Recruitment (EB2 cases)

From 1 April 1004 to 16 August 2004 => 430 appox(All countries)

No data from 17 August 2004 to 28 February 2005.

From 01 March 2005 to 30 September 2005, For Level III- 263 For Level IV-271
= 500 approx.

For 01 October 2005 to March 2006, For Level III- 2500, Level IV-1770
= 4300 approx.

Now, of the GCs approved last Aug.08 and Sept.08 were from the Texas Service Center.

That meant Atlanta Processing Center was the Labor Approval Center.

So, For 01 October 2005 to March 2006
For Level III- 1100, Level IV-770.

So, total left = (2500-1100) + (1770-770) = 1400 + 1100= 2500

Therefore toatl from 01 April 2004 to Mar. 2006=>

430(2004) + 400(mystery number from 16 Aug. 04 to 01 March 2005) + 500(2005) +2500(2006)= 3900 principal applicants.

Multiply by 2 for dependents = 7800 EB2 India pending before Mar. 06.

Please comment on my analysis or feel free to ask questions.

Correct me if Iam wrong I believe that the zone does not map directly to category, for those with bachelors only Zone - 5 maps to EB2, so most of level 3 and 4 that you mention could be EB3.

out of context...but do u think dates will be current in august and sept...
My labor in Atlanta....dont see it getting certified B4 August:( :(

When can I get my gc based on these uscis data for sept 2005 eb-2.Please suggest me.

I think we can make some very credible and good arguments for ourselves.

a) The changing demographics require an increased level of immigration. It is upto this country to decide if it wants semi-skilled immigrants (Indian cooks and gardeners) and their siblings/parents, or high-skilled immigrants.



Just read this in the morning.

The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) estimates that in 2002 illegal alien households imposed costs of $26 billion on the federal government and paid $16 billion in federal taxes, creating an annual net fiscal deficit of $10.4 billion at the federal level, or $2,700 per household.

Among the largest costs, were Medicaid ($2.5 billion); treatment for the uninsured ($2.2 billion); food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches ($1.9 billion); the federal prison/court systems ($1.6 billion); and federal aid to schools ($1.4 billion).

If illegal aliens were legalized and began to pay taxes and use services like households headed by legal immigrants with the same education levels, CIS estimates the annual net fiscal deficit would increase to $29 billion, or $7,700, per household.

The primary reason illegal aliens create a fiscal deficit is that an estimated 60 percent lack a high school degree and another 20 percent have no education beyond high school. The fiscal drain is not due to their legal status or unwillingness to work.

Illegal alines with little education are a significant fiscal drain, but less-educated immigrants who are legal residents are a much larger fiscal problem because they are eligible for many more programs.

Many of the costs associated with illegal aliens are due to their US-born children who have American citizenship. Thus, barring illegal aliens themselves from federal programs will have little impact on costs.

Focusing just on Social Security and Medicare, CIS estimates that illegal households create a combined net benefit for these two programs in excess of $7 billion a year. However, they create a net deficit of $17 billion in the rest of the budget, for a total net federal cost of $10 billion.

http://www.immigrationwatchcanada.org/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=697

This is the most accurate evaluation I have ever found on this forum regarding how USCIS works! :D

For USCIS, 2007 was "let's reduce some backlog in EB3-category" year.
It looks like 2008 is " let's reduce some backlog in EB2-category" year.
On both occassions they hid their plans in right in front of us, and said "gotcha" to every one- AILA, IV prognosticators and Ron Gotchers of this world.

I doubt USCIS will openly Re-revise the horizontal spill over policy. If they do that they may be challenged again forcing them to Re-Re-revise which will make them look even more stupider than they do now.

There are other means by which USCIS can deliver justice- mafia style- but within the current law. They need additional help from DOS,DOL, etc.

examples- (1) Generally sit on EB-2 adjudications, delay them and say there are unused EB2 numbers and allow them to spill over to EB-3

(2) Clamp down even further on PERM - stretch it from 8 months to 36 months for every applicant including EB2-ROW, make even more unused numbers available to clear backlogs.


p.s
I do not harbor any ill-will towards ROW or any other category. I honestly think above things are possible. :)

Well friends,
I understand the things .
My take is:
I will stay another 2 years when i exhaust my full 6yrs H1B.If GC doesnt seem thru by then,I can then move back to INDIA and invest in a new venture.
I dont find any need to go to Canada,Australia or Gulf.
Anyways best of Luck to all Migratory BIRDS:) No PUN intended !!:)

This question is for Attorney and for Everyone:

Could you pls... pls... look into my case and if possible could you provide your suggestions.

here is the link for my case
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20055

with Thanks in advance,
Venu

I wouldn't worry too much about getting a job offer before getting there. In fact I would suggest take your time to relax/look for jobs/business opportunities when you get there. You will be a PR and will have plenty of opportunities if you are not in a field requiring a license. In fact, the best part about being a PR is the doors it opens. Consider whatever interests you and makes good money!
I know several ppl who have landed in Canada and switched fields.

I am finally moving to canada in 2-3 months. Deadline for landing is March 3rd 2007.

I am done with US Green Card and can not take this stress any more. Starting to sell my house and other stuff soon.

:) he did say hope is on the way...but forgot to say which way or he was try to say what would hope's tombstone read...

Here lies HOPE...it was IN the WAY :rolleyes:

to the others who are bitching and moaning about EB1's, a few months back we were worried about the EB3 converting to EB2..before that we were worried that EB3's were getting more visas than EB2's and so on.....we will keep fighting about the handfull of misallocated visas or work towards recapture. The most important thing from Murthy's letter is that USCIS has started preadjudicating 485 which simply means that there are ton of people stuck in this mess who are waiting to be approved... a handful of visas is nothing...lets all unite and work towards recapture.

Well I am pissed with this whole set up of immigration in this country.. did not obama's campaign say " HOPE IS ON THE WAY".. well its seems for skilled immigrant workers it is " HOPE IS OFF THE WAY"

This argument does not have much merit. You are confusing diversity with skills - if those friends, cousins etc. meet the job requirements, there is no issue in hiring them for open positions. You are asking us to believe that a country that does not believe in affirmative action in the job market and depends on voluntary action by employers to enhance diversity cares about any of this when it comes to immigration.

No, the intention behind the 7% limit is to protect levels of European immigration and address racist fears of immigration from the 3rd world. This was also the intent behind the diversity lottery - notice the consternation that the diverisity lottery is primarily benefitting non-Europeans.


If you go to the earliest visa bulletins posted on department of state web-site; you will see that Dominican Republic EB3 was retrogressed at one point. Think about that. Dominican Republic; how small is that country. Reason it was retrogressed is probably everyone was getting everyone of their relatives, etc., to come to USA through employment base. The country quota in my mind is designed to prevent such abuses of people making an end run and designing systems to get people from certain countries here.

There is a department of labor precedent court case where they can deny a labor if you are sponsoring a relative or a "close friend". The premise being that if there is a close relationship then the job cannot be truly open to Americans. I have seen USCIS also use this in a case where they figured out that CEO of the company was sponsoring his brother through employment base. This particular case, really opened up my eyes to how EB immigration was working and I started to see things a little bit better from USCIS point of view. Up to this point I thought everyone who was getting EB greencard or H-1b was highly specialized and it was a very difficult thing to do. Company I worked with had a decent number of people on H-1b at the entry level. It was all nationalities and they were from F-1. However,when it came time to sponsor them for greencard, they wouldn't do it because they couldn't satify themselves that no American was available for the job.

In this past year, I have seen USCIS get really, really difficult with h-1b's and greencards. The backlog labors are also getting a tough time. USCIS, department of state, backlog reduction center is treating the consulting companies as temporary staffing companies. There is a whole bunch of requriements that these various agencies are setting and many companies are withdrawing or deciding to not respond to these queries. When this starts happening behind the scenes then it doesn't bode well for "friendly" type immigration policies.

Last year; when cybersoftech situation happened where he filed 350 I-140's, falsified labors; falsified his tax returns, etc., and all the cases were denied or revoked; many of the candidates thought they had been cheated and that USCIS/senators/congressmen were going to make accomodations for them. Nothing like this happened; they were calling themselves "victims" and thought they should get honorary greencard because of what they had been through.


From USCIS/DOL point of view it gave them a case study of the manipulations of the system and how everything worked. Now; they are starting to hold companies to a very high standard and looking for these types of tendenices/trends. If a company has too many H-1b's filed, too many I-140's then they are looking at it as if the company is set up for immigration purpose.

One thing that people shouldn't lose sight of is that a company does not need to sponsor you for a greencard. They could fire you or lay you off at any time. All they need to do is buy you a plane ticket home. All these arguments that people have about spouse not being able to work, career stagnation, etc., would still be arguments if you stayed here on H-1b for six years. if company wasn't going to sponsor you for greencard then these arguments would still apply that you are using. However, would anyone listen if a company didn't want to sponsor you. Why is this relevant? A company is sponsoring you but they are not very interested in lobbying for you. If a company wants you on a permanent basis but it is taking too long then you would think they would lobby for you. They are the petitioner.

Now; companies want more H-1b's. in fact they really don't want it an increase. What is happening is that companies are filing H-1b's six months in advance for jobs they do not have. Ask people who go for visa stamping initially, how difficult it is for company to get them a visa without bull------- about it.

You have the traditional L-1 companies who are filing h-1b's and L-1's because of the no body shopping rule. Depending on the project, bill rates, etc., they determine whether a person will come on h-1 or l-1. it is like they are reserving the right ahead of time depending on their needs. The traditional American company can only get fresh quota cases if they have people on OPT working there. However, if they find a candidate sometime in October they cannot file an H-1b for them. So what is the solution? Increase the cap or make it extremely difficult to get H-1b visa approved and teach everyone a lesson.

This is not as simple as everyone may think it is. There are a lot of things happening behind the scense where there is a "tightening" of approvals and visas.

Now; some people may not like this posting. However; you need to have as much information as possible in order to strategize and talk to various decision makers. Some of them might sit there and listen to you but then when they start studying the situation they might come to know what I have posted here. if/when quota increases, it will probably be because when the intial 140,000 was set; the economy was at a different stage, population was at a different stage. The increase would probably just follow market realities (population is more then what it was when 140,000 was set and we need to adjust it accordingly).

actually Philippines has it's own category in the Visa Bulletin. So technically it's not part of ROW. But practically speaking EB3 ROW dates and Philippines EB3 (previously Schedule A Nurses) are usually very close...

ROW = Rest of the World. It refers to countries other than India, China, Mexico, and I believe Philippines.

not just 5 years,
make it a retrogressed date for coming out of prison for such people. They will understand what retrogression is and will wait endlesslessly for their date of freedom to become current.:)
stay in jail forever and when the date becomes current ... go back to the home country empty handed to start all over again.

btw, everyone filing GCs from small companies need to be very careful. Some members are asking about company A or B on the forum these days. You need to directly ask the employer all these questions before joiniing them. Sometimes even after approval of 140 or even till you get the actual GC your application can be denied for GC if:
- The company is found to be fraud/ involved in any fruad by USCS or DOL
- the company has excess GC applications and cannot show ability to pay (company profitability per year) for all of them. Small companies typically may be involved in wrongh tax practices by hiding their actual profits. The company may have filed several GC applications and sometimes initial applications may get approved but later can be denied. IN that case USCIS can also deny all previously approved applications.
- The company is H1B dependent. (more H1Bs . There is a percentage defined by USCIS). Ths will raise red flags in their system.
- The applicant is related to the owner of the company. This also can be a reason for denial and red flagging of a company for all other applicants.
- Physical location and legitimacy of the company. In the past some applicants applied through companies in Maine even though they were not working in Maine. This was to get faster LCs before the Perm process started. Sometimes such cases also raises doubts.

Be careful with every step you take. GC application is very important and you do not want to take such risks and regret later.