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Reason it was retrogressed is probably everyone was getting everyone of their relatives, etc., to come to USA through employment base. The country quota in my mind is designed to prevent such abuses of people making an end run and designing systems to get people from certain countries here.


You are theorizing based on circumstantial evidence, but the history and origin of the country quota does not support your conclusion. The fact that the DOL and UCCIS would not be able to keep abreast of illegal behavior is not something that would have been known at the time the country quota was introduced.

The other issue with your theory is that the abuse you are referring has its roots in the fact that the employer controls the green card process not the country quota. If I really want to abuse the country quota I would change my name and get a fake SSN / green card and wait for the periodic legalization initiatives or even simpler, get a birth certificate from the right country.

don't even think about it. It is grossly unfair to people whove been waiting in line for years.

I don't mind substituion per se as long as people get new priority dates.
IV- we should have a poll on whether labor substitution is fair.

when there were no dates in VISA BULLETIN for EB2 and EB3, how the people filed 485 in the year 2008 and 2009 under EB3 and EB2 as well?

I'm not sure but some one did mention this on this forum. It's better if other people can comment on the veracity of this statement.

"..veracity of this statement"
Sure pick up the phone and dial IRS, or call your accountant. Or your lawyer if you want to play it safe.
Other people doesn't do or will never do anything, other then wearing pantyhose and tip toeing through the tulips.

As far as I know...
LIke you said India was just born and Nehru with full majority was heading the country . You know what he did he came up with Democratic-Socialistic model which is the hybrid of Communist-Socialist Russia,Democartic-Capatilistic U.S

This Democratic-Socialism was never tried anywhere else in the world.It was the so called vision of Nehru(albeit cut-copy-paste).

Interestingly explanation he gave for advocating his recipe was the same explanation you are giving for 'why it is difficult to rule India'

He said since India is young country it needs gentle intervention from state to get rid of the existing social-economic disparities. His formula resulted in bureaucratic bottlenecks, red tape, widened existing socio-economic disparities ,gave rise to mafia culture and the list goes on making Nehruvian socialism synonymous to failure in Indian dictionary.His dynastic descendants tried to push it under carpet as long as they could .Result: we see people thinking Nehru was a visionary.

Our own Intelligent MMS in 90's named Nehruviain Socialism a failure before he opened the reforms in the market.It is said that when P.V/MMS duo took charge they found that country's foreign exchanges reserves couldn't last for 24 hours.


India is very difficult to rule. Thats why we outsource that. It is not a joke.

Even after independence, Nehru had very strong majority goverment. Still he had a problems in ruling the country. He had lot of vision in economy, poverty, socialism etc.. But he and subsequent PMs (mostly congress) failed becuse of unimaginable local issues based on India's diversity and polygenious nature of the state. India is a victim of its own diversity and long/old (and strong) regional history. This diversity includes language, tradition, culture, food habit, religion, caste and so on. Therefore, India is victim of its own division and diversity. India is untied or born in 1947 because of British rule. Infact, there is no country called Republic of India before 1947. Indian constitution (or concept of united India) is brand new compare to regional history. Naturally, regional interest always prevails. So ruling India is still a new and uphill task. 60 years is very less to come to conclusion. Thats why, all congress PMs had failed in reforms. And now in the information age, India become materialistic, everybody wants everything. So naturally corruption increases. So one can not blame just congress alone for the mess.

I trust the talent of desi dallas, they will come up with a way to circumvent this:D

Their other talent includes asking some part of money from the employee from their salary every month so that they can give them money when they are on bench. They are genius. They come up with some serious fun stuff:eek:

I thought the same way as you did too. I am no fan of these job shop companies but remember some one will pay the price and face hardships I hope its just those companies not the employees. But the way things are if this gets effective employees can also get into a limbo - which I dont like - like say someone has gone for visa stamping and that gets denied or worst his/her family is still in the US - or something like that. Its true that the employee should try and look for a new job opportunity meeting new regulations but its not easy as it sounds.

More important point to consider is that new rules/regulations the way I understand it were suddenly implemented mid-stream - you cant do that. What if in after some time they apply same regulations to say people on EAD and using AC21 (i am still not clear whether it already applies to EAD we will have to wait for legal experts to comment) ? Or worse yet they come up with new regulations for people who already have their GC's approved ?

cinqsit

I am doing an employer change - HtoH transfer.

Do I have to wait for the H1 transfer approval or is the receipt good
enough for me to travel abroad? Do I have to get my new H1 stamped
before reentering? I still have the dates on my old h1 (from AMD)
valid on the stamping on my passport - will this suffice? Please
explain.

Also my Advanced Parole is on its way. Will I be able to travel on EAD
and AP, when my H1 transfer is being filed? Can I still hold on to my
H1 status, if I traveled using my AP?


Regards,
Suhanya.

One consideration is that majority of Indians coming to US have a plan to leave within a certain time period or after a certain goal saving whatever amount...
I had that kind of goal too...But after 5-6 years the considerations change....

Also all arguments came out of UnitedNations unfortunately are already present and deep seated in a very large %age of our compatriots....That is the main reason behind the less mobilization......

Also the situations are changing in homeland...The value of a green card had dropped in the eyes of a large number of people....This situation of people lining up for green cards would change in a few years...especially if the economic growth keeps the tempo it has....

I don't know the context of the above explaination. It is no explanation for the following (I have truck loads of them) which is posted nearly once/day. Many such opinions may not be posted.

Forget contributions - find other ways to survive......

A lot of people, including me have lost faith in IV. They are not going to pay. We don't know what IV is working on and we don't believe it can do anything. The sooner IV accepts it, the better. I have seen this personally in talking to people and you can see the evidence with less than 300 people contributing. IV needs to produce results first.


And today, some of our members, when they call us, block their caller ID. God knows what they are afraid of.

You moron coming from the slum region or any other place in Bihar.
You don't know about keralites.
100% Literacy.
Living standard is same like Europe. (no other state have the facilities such as health care and standard of living like Kerala).
It is God's own country.
Visit and see the details.
Even the guys working in Gulf countries knows better than you and making much more than you. Go and see their houses.(multi storied), You are still in an appartment.
Do you ????


Mr.Nair tell me is it Gulf or Gelf. Do you still wear lunky in office or smoke peedi...enda peedi malabar pedi, enda CM EK nayar...he he :D

If its GOD own country...what are you doing there. Are you renting it mr.Nair

by the way how is omana kutty.

What happens when you loose your job on TN1 ? Do you get any time to look for another job ? Do you automatically convert to tourist visa or you need to leave and come back ?
Are the 3 and 10 yr bar reevant for Canadian nationals ?

How long does It take to get Canandian PR

Tamils in the US too doesn't ask a part of US armed with weapons.

SL Tamils in Sri Lanka is fighting for their homeland which was unjust fully integrated by the Europeans/British with the Sinhalese majority south, paving way the Sinhalese to discriminate the Tamils in their homeland. SL Tamils are fighting for their homeland and not someone else land.

Just like the jews, tamils practice their culture and language in sri lanka without been discriminated. You don't see Jews armed with weapons asking for part of USA for themselves.

If you see the numbers for EB2 ROW there are still 7000 visas pending.
Offcourse many are from 2007 and 2008

How is it possible?Is it not EB2 ROW and EB1 was always current?

1997 1
1998 3
1999 1
2000 11
2001 47
2002 67
2003 69
2004 219
2005 493
2006 973
2007 1,531
2008 3,473
2009 262
Grand Total 7,150



Also EB1 has the following data

1997 4
1998 1
1999 0
2000 1
2001 32
2002 57
2003 32
2004 29
2005 41
2006 135
2007 537
2008 898
2009 710
Grand Total 2,477

Does this mean this data is not accurate as of date. So if it means that all of those applications are approved as of today there are no more EB2 ROW 485 applications pending for FY 2010 apart from the recently filed in PERM stage?

Even though enactment of the visa recapture and nursing relief bills within the 110th Congress was slim, the foreign professionals watched the webcast of the hearing yesterday with a tremendous despair, adjourning the hearing without taking up these immigration bills. Guess what the last word of the Chairman was: Photo session of the Committee members on the 24th! It is gone, gone, and gone. No more glimmer of hope within this 110th Congress.

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However, these students are not completely exempted from the H1B quota for each year. Whatever, if PERM filing in year 2008 has witnessed 46% drop since 2007 ... it tells us a lot.

Thats true - students were not exempt until a couple of years ago - but the point I am trying to make is that they add to the EB - India count thereby retrogressing it further.
Looking at only BIG IT sponsored H1b's may result in a much reduced EB number

Boss, remove Atalji. He is on bed for last 8 months. So no chance for him.
Sonia Gandhi is out of question as people will not accept her.
Rahul is a baccha ( KID ) in front of all those stalwarts ( old and experience wolves ).

Contest should be only between MMS and Advani.

Though i would have loved to see Modi on PM HOT seat.


To all those who had given me RED dot and most idiotic comments for my above post.
Does my above post really need these comments:

* you racist hindu bastard...
* take this nonsense elsewhere
* gandu

etc;

1] To date there are 60K EB2I and another 60K EB3I I-485 applictaions pending.
2] 3.2K visas were available for EB2I for FY2009.

Assuming 3.2K visas are available every year from now on, it will take 60/3.2=18.75 years for all EB2I applicants upto today to be granted GC.

Unbelievable!

I just look at this pool and surprised that Advani is running so hot in the pool. I am from Gujarat and I can tell that advani will be worst as PM. when given a Chance in BJP ministry he had worst performance as Home minister. I think he had not managed anything in his life and after his rise in BJP, BJP lost his charm.

I think some one with good management skill like MMohan, MODI, Chidambaram etc are lot more sutiabel than Advani.

Advani should retire from politics before even Bajpai. Even lalu will be better as PM than Advani looking to how advani managed Home Ministry and how Lalu Managed Railway.

Thank you for your personal opinion. India was doing well when Vajpayee was PM. He is not some management honcho. It is a vision of the person that is more important. Manmohan is a learned man and has provided country with real good service but real power rests with Sonia and her son Rahul.

Hence. Its a question of ideology in the long run and given my background, BJP govt suits me better than Congress. So I prefer Advani over Sonia.

brilliant idea...if some of us are able to get off the queue and give more visa numbers to others waiting helps everybody. Along with US homes being sold could add some value. Hats off to nixtor.

I don't think anything like that will happen ..first of all it is not easy at all ..definitely many will leave (especially lot of people who just crossed the borders are moving back and the joke is that they are building a wall to prevent people from leaving :)).
but I do think that one way or the other something will happen in terms of faster immigration in the next year ..or else I don't know from where will they find so many buyers of houses ..look at this article about Georgia ,..which people kept saying -- that there is no bubble .
(look at the print in bold ..I am still wondering if it is a misprint or real ..117 months supply of homes !!! ..the other funny point is that bankers are running after builders with hot rods :D).
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The housing market is so bad that some banks and builders that had been business partners are now adversaries, and experts are using the dreaded �D� word.

�In northeast Georgia we�re not in a housing recession, we�re in a housing depression,� Jim Williams, president of Southern Highlands Mortgage in Blairsville, told state lawmakers at a daylong hearing Wednesday. �The retiree market, the secondary market has all but dried up. There are no homes being built.�
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Likewise, Eugene James, head of the Atlanta division of the research company Metrostudy, said the 22 metro counties it covers �are in a housing depression right now.�

James said sales closings were down 44 percent for the third quarter, compared to the same period last year, and housing starts had plunged 67 percent. The metro area also has about 148,000 lots with infrastructure but no homes � a 117-month supply, he said.

Legislators are trying to figure out what they can do to encourage home buying and rescue residential builders. The General Assembly convenes next month, and new bills might be introduced calling for tax incentives, expanded down payment assistance or reductions in home building regulations.

�A down payment assistance obviously would be very, very beneficial to citizens,� Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle said after speaking to the joint economic development committee.

A federal down payment assistance program ended last fall and the current state down payment assistance program, Georgia Dream, is limited.

Sen. Chip Pearson (R-Dawsonville), co-chairman of the meeting, was intrigued by a California rescue plan that Chuck Fuhr, Ryland Homes� Atlanta division president, described.

In the 1990s, the California Public Employees� Retirement System began making loans to home builders and investing in residential projects in order to turn around that state�s faltering housing market, Fuhr said. The CalPERS program was so successful, it expanded out of state, he said.

�Almost every small builder I know today has his bank knocking on the door, trying to collect his loan and put him out of business,� Fuhr said. If builders continue to fold, competition will lessen and home prices will escalate, he said.

Kurt Cannon, president of Rabun Builders and the Home Builders Association of Georgia, said at the hearing that worried bankers have turned on builders, even those with good credit, by calling in loans and threatening to sue.

Cannon presented several pages of e-mails he�s received. A Paulding County builder wrote: �The president of the bank replied back that five of the seven bank presidents in the county had lost their jobs and he was not going to lose his. �I am going to foreclose on the property you have here. Then I am going to come after you personally and sue you for the money you owe me and everything else you have.��

Maybe you are right. But I think that the main problem is not housing. It is the export/import imbalance, manufacturing jobs(maybe other jobs) leaving US etc. The housing boom, which was selling and buying to each other at higher and higher prices, masked the real problem in the economy. Government can do all it can to stop the house price sliding, but then what? We cannot generate economy again by buying and selling house to each other. People are asking 'where are the real jobs?'