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I got very stable news that only July 485 applications will get approved

Whats the basis of your statement ? Source of info ?

2005. The guy at the college said to the FOBs (including myself)...Dress in your best suits, we are goin to a business meeting! all of us got excited. the meeting was attended by people of all colors. felt good that desis are heading it! then i joined paying around $250. Slowly came to know that its not my cup of tea. The quickstar guys have only few brands of softdrinks and other amway products, always nagging others to join in, faking a spontaneous friendship. The speeches they give at the meetings are all almost the same. they seem to have a standard text, and have an aquired american accent. they talk abt being financially independent, but losing perspective, friends, decency. after a few weeks, i got my refund, and pulled out.

2006. TX. a stranger desi lady was being so friendly to me and my friend in a Walmart. After sometime when she was trying to give her hubby's contact details, i walked away. my friend was caught up, and he wouldnt come! I got many follow up calls from her abt business meetings. i said NO.

2007. a friend of mine comes to Florida from India to do a phd in chemistry. calls me up and says im coming to DE for a meeting. you should come! he said it wasnt abt chemistry. I could immediately smell some amway stink. i advised him not to go for it. im glad he and a lot of others stopped getting into this quickstar quicksand.

I mean, the weeds are everywhere! and at all times.

Just like Telemarketing is regulated at the federal level from using deception, i hope this amway mania is kept under check as well.

Dugg the links, posted to the board. What other action items do we have?

some more items we all can work on

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5989

also mail the reporters listed on this thread

DIGGING is simple we have to encourage more members to DIGG> this will keep our stories as most popular

Markus.Rose@mail.house.gov,
Committee@mail.house.gov,
Larry.Lavender@mail.house.gov,
Philip.Swartzfager@mail.house.gov,
Dave.Oxner@mail.house.gov,
Michael.Staley@mail.house.gov,
Scott_Hoeflich@Specter.senate.gov,
Thomas_Dower@Specter.senate.gov,
Lisa_Owings@Specter.senate.gov,
Matt_Kelly@Specter.senate.gov,
Sheryl_Cohen@Dodd.senate.gov,
Rebecca_Freedman@Dodd.senate.gov,
Jim_Fenton@Dodd.senate.gov,
Patrick_Grant@Dodd.senate.gov,
Lori_McGrogan@Dodd.senate.gov,
Alex_Sternhell@Dodd.senate.gov,
Laura_Friedel@Shelby.senate.gov,
Emily_Titlow@Shelby.senate.gov

Chad_Davis@Shelby.senate.gov,
Peter_Olson@Cornyn.senate.gov,
Beth_Jafari@Cornyn.senate.gov,
Reed_O'Connor@Cornyn.senate.gov,
Cynthia.Martin@mail.house.gov,
Matt.Thome@mail.house.gov,
Melody.Light@mail.house.gov,
Ed_Pagano@Leahy.senate.gov,
John_Dowd@Leahy.senate.gov,
Bruce_Cohen@Leahy.senate.gov,
Bill_Yeomans@Kennedy.senate.gov,
Carey_Parker@Kennedy.senate.gov,
Eric_Mogilnicki@Kennedy.senate.gov,
Stacey.Leavandosky@mail.house.gov,
Erik.Stallman@mail.house.gov

vdlrao, Thanks for the great analysis.
I am using DOS visa statistics and I arrived at EB quota numbers for 2008 as 162,707. There were 22,707 unused FB visa's in 2007 based on the DOS visa statistics @ http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/statistics/statistics_1476.html
Typically the actual EB quota for the FY is revised in the September bulletin. I am not sure if DOS has already taken into account the new EB quota number for the Aug bulletin. If they hadn't taken into account the new quota number then we should see some forward movement in the Sep bulletin.

However the 28,795 AC-21 recaptured visa's U are talking about has already been used in 2002, please take a look at the below mentioned link for details regarding the usage of those visa's.

http://travel.state.gov/pdf/FY2003%20AppD.pdf

All the AC-21 recaptured visa's has been used by now.

mpadapa, I am getting 31,100 unused Family Based Visas for 2007 fiscal year from
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/LPR_FR_2007.pdf
.
DHS bulletin is not updated correctly like Employment Based AC21 VISAS? Please let me know.

This thead is not useful for people like us please close it.

And I beg not to create any more threads which unpopulars us.
we are not supportng those kind of illegal business. we are against to those things.

Get over the thought that you represent India
Is this what you read into my 'India shining through sincere efforts of some people' line?
I'm glad at least you read so much.Here I'm trying to convince you that you also represent India, you ask me to stop thinking I represent India.We all represent India (in what ever minuscule way it may be) so we need to get serious about it.That's what this whole thread is about.Don't run to Wiki now

but lets see how far you go to discredit someone
On one hand you say these are misdeeds ,when attributed to someone it amounts to discrediting them(Again I'm glad you didn't say I or some one I know have committed these deeds and trying to push on your beloved politician...oh wait you are not batting for anyone right?)

And that is bad because ....... Oh well

and then you wonder if it is bad.Talk of ambivalence.This line shows not just your ambivalence but much more. You find nothing wrong in lying to the state.That cool uh?

This speaks volumes about your attitude and it's highly unnecessary for me to comment further.
Generally speaking :
There is huge difference between a guy who thinks of his house as a guest house or a Hotel and a guy who thinks of his house as his home.

Exactly, there are more EB application from India and most of them are older PD, so with no rule, all it means is that India will get bigger share.

But I thought the rule stated that the spillover can only be applied to over-subscribed countries in the FOURTH quarter of the fiscal year - meaning no sooner than June/July 2010 - or am I missing something here?
How can the VB get past March 2005 in December 2009? If it does, I'll be very happy! However, I would like to know if the estimate is realistic...and not over-optimistic.

Pardon my ignorance, how does labor substitution work and what is FIFO?

As per Macaca's logic, pre Oct 2005 PDs will take up all the numbers available for EB2 Indai for 2007, in June and July.

If that is the case why was the Bulletin for july not set to Oct or Nov 2005 and instead made current. Surely USCIS does not want to deal with all the extra workload if it does not have to.

It is a shame India does not act to protect the interests of its citizens even after this news came up.


Why do you think it is Indian citizens? Just because some politicians are saying so for their own gains all Tamilians in Srilanka are not Indian citizen.

Heck, even USA is trying harder than India by using its muscle to block billions of dollars of IMF funds to SL for not caring about ceasefire.


Are you suggesting India should start playing the role of world police as USA.

LTTE is the one who took the life of our beloved leader Rajiv Gandhi who would have taken India to much high in the world. And why should India protect them.

Teddy ... I like your calculation and read all your posting on Calculation thread. This is a fun thread to relax. So don't take it seriously.

If I was bad person then I will try to derail the good thread.

Iam sorry, by OP I meant the original poster of the thread (The person who wrote the first post) not yourself. Your post is perfectly ok like all and its a fun thread. You are a nice guy :). My bad in quoting your post and causing the confusion.

More and more, I see people posting messages containing the unspoken assumption that since the Indian E2 cutoff date has moved forward, it is likely to move forward further in the coming months. This is a false hope.


I personally feel it all depends on how USCIS is gonna process the cases during August 2008.

When Ron writes about the new EB2 India quota for 2008, he does not mention spill over to EB 2 India from EB1 category. Which is a very important aspect behind the prediction given by optimists like vdlrao and others.

However at the same time, if USCIS does not bring its act together and we end up wasting the visas once again ( it highly unlikely that consular visa posts will assign 20 to 40K visas in next two months ... Are there so many people going with CP route??) the dates for EB2 India will retrogress but certainly not to an extent that they go back to 2003. There will be a mild retrogression and EB2 India date may come back to April 2004. However, later on they will progress further because of new years quota and spillover from EB1.

Thanks eb3India.

How does the current company obtain a pre-approved labor? Does it buy the pre-app labour? Or is it SOLELY because someone in the company left (whose labor was approved)?

I was reading a lot about the controversy about why it should be stopped etc so i was wondering if someone had any documentation on why it was started in the first place and how it works

Thanks

To a_yaja,

Thanks for your detailed story my friend. This thread is turing into a support group for Amway/Quickstar victims.
How is your experience with your childhood Amway friend. Still friends or just keeping in touch because he has the acess to the Amway database? :P

I have come across quite a few of the Amway/ Quickstart folks. Like most of the people have described here, they usually approach me in Walmart, Meijer, etc. My first experience was in the temple. This dude and his wife went "oh wow! you know so many languages." After talking to the dude, he said that he knew some of my childhood friends and he remembered my face and that we could have possibly played cricket together in our childhood days (this itself should have raised red flags - but I was naive then and didn't think twice). Long story short, we exchanged phone #s and next day he called me and asked me to meet him at his home. He was running an "ecomm business" and was looking for partners. I asked him if he was talking about Amway and he innocently asked me "What is Amway?" I agreed to meet him but something bothered me. I called up another childhood friend who was in Amway and asked him about this dude. Sure enough he was an Amway-ite and already a "Diamond". I was mad and did not go to his house. He called me a couple of times but I never picked up the phone.


We remain good friends and agreed to disagree on Amway. Now our kids have also friends and when they grow up hopefully will continue being "friends from childhood" :-). And ofcourse - he is still a good source of Amway-ites.

Very well said.

To add to that, my message to Ron Hira, his IEEE-USA, John Miano, others at programmer's guild, Bernie Sanders etc. :

Your plan to stop outsourcing is really going well. Isnt it ? Well, this is exactly why people like you and John Miano get replaced by hard-working foriegn workers. Because the foriegn workers have a mission to accomplish when they accept a job, unlike you, who intends to do one thing (stop outsourcing) and ends up achieving the opposite (cause outsourcing).

Keep up the good work and blame the foriegn workers for all your problems in life, including global warming.

And Bernie, you are the best. Now tell me, how are you going to protect the Americans whose jobs are being taken and shipped to Canada. Are you planning to run for Senate in Canada ? How about you resign and run for office in Canada and slap a $5000 fee there and also give a grand speech you gave in US senate ? Go Bernie, go.

I agree with all of you that this is not worth talking. Instead channelize your efforts in supporting organization to contact lawmakers and make advocacy efforts.

Such people give a bad name to high skilled immigrants. They give fodder to anti immigrants to talk against H1Bs and greencard applicants by talking about abuses and exploitation.
IV is against any kind of breaking of the law and condemn such people. I'm sure DOL is watching Sulekha website since this is the place where such ads have been posted and reported.

That is true. No one knows the impact of outsourcing. Because no public data is available unlike H1b or L1. If american public gets exact data about outsourcing then they will oppose that also and goverment has to act. But there is no legal binding for Government or Corporations to give data about outsourcing. Some time back most manufacturing went silently out of USA and when people started realizing it was too late to act. But relaxing immigration will not prevent outsourcing as everything is based on cost

Then USA become USSR and go down the toilet....

One way to know the truth will be..
Inform immigration law enforcement authorities about next Amway meeting place and tell them that H1B visa holders are doing illegal work... I am sure we will have some extra visa numbers


Sure with dead bobhead braincells of yours, nobody expects your self image to be high enough. Its not for wimps wearing zippers to the side like you. If you are man enough come and talk to me, and will see who gets handcuffed.

June 6th.

Does someone know what date in June they started turning back EB3-Other WOrkers?