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Hi shantak,

WHich service center did you file to.
I have efiled to TSC and also did you get the biormtric appointment last time.
Getting EAD approval in 11 days is faaastt.I need to see how fast mine will be.

Thanks,
Shantak

There are too many assumptions here. How I see this situation is;
EB3 I will not move significantly unless and until oversubscribed EB2s become current. Even then, it cannot be taken as granted because the demand of EB2s can take all the spill over and be current without spilling to EB3. USCIS will eventually make the change once they see that EB3 has significant retrogression and there is a lot of noise made about it.

The solution I see is; we can make a valid presentation showing the effects of this spillover change in the long run and how EB3s will be affected seriously.

This is my take on spill over interpretation and please dont feel bad if you do not like it. Lets take it this way assume we have 40K extra visa # from EB1 and ROW categories that need to be spilled over to ICPM countries. Now you have two options
1) Spill it by PD. Which helps EB3 (I)
2) Spill it by category which helps EB2 (I) & EB2(C)

If you look at numbers EB3 I # are huge so inspite of pumping 40K into it the numbers barely inch forward. We have seen this all the way till 2007. Where as in just 2 years of spillover EB2 I has moved into 2005 with prediction of becoming current in 2-3 years.

Now if I was USCIS director and going to Senate hearing. What would I like to tell them that I have used all visa # and EB2 & EB3 are severly backlogged. Or should I say I used up all visa # and now EB1 & Eb2 are current and we have backlogs in only Eb3 category.

Just that I feel USCIS can claim more bang for buck when they spill in EB2. (just my theory not justyfying it). Also I feel Eb2 is used by large US corporations for its H1 employees especially STEM graduates working. Example Intel, Texas Instruments, Microsoft etc also large financial companies especially for employees on business side (not IT employees). There is pressure from these companies since they do not want to lose some one with business knowledge because of immigrations rules. Just look at how many times Bill Gates has shown up on Senate floor to pitch for EB immigration reform. If you make EB2 current you can shut him up since most Micro Soft employees are under Eb2 category. That way you are effectively muting the critisism againt you on senate floor.

This way USCIS can also keep these people happy since they can claim that EB2 which translates as Exceptional Ability and Advanced Degrees are now close to current. The only catch is consulting companies and outsourcing companies have sneaked large number of people into Eb2 and they have become lucky.

In our state chapter meeting one of the idea "is to post ad in the local theatres where Indian movies are being shown" - I bet there are good potential members coming to the movies..

To post in local theatres, the state chapter members have agreed to pitch in and cover the cost rather than requesting from IV core.

A lot can be achieved, if all members honestly contact and meet and talk with the staff of the lawmakers in their town.

The problem with the EB Community/ IV members is that we think that going and talking with our lawmakers is not going to help. Or, we are under the impression that all politicians generally know everything about us and are just unwilling to do anything about it for political reasons.

The truth is that 90% of lawmakers and their staff have no clue that there are thousands backlogged and stuck in this process for a decade.

It is our job to educate, bring our issues to light and keep pressure on them to bring/cosponsor or vote for a meaningful bill that will allievate our problems.

When I visited my local congresswoman's office the first time in 2007- The staff was actually shocked to hear that I have done all the right paperwork and being employed and stuck for 5 years.

Over the years, I have met them many times and educated them about the issues and build a relationship. And yet, many times the staff wonders if there are really thousands of people like me affected, how is it that there is just me that is visiting them and talking about it.

Remember there are 435 house representatives and 100 senators. Each one of you are within driving distance (40 minutes) to a office of a rep.

You are absolutely right!
Many lawmakers are not aware of the problems with high skilled legal immigrants. It happened with my Rep. To them, fixing immigration means - doing something about illegal immigrants - whether it is to send them back or to give them a path to gc/citizenship.

They asked me about how many legal high skilled immigrants are stuck in the state, and why is it that they are not voicing their concerns. As I did not have the statistics of how many legal hs immigrants were in the state, I told them that they were in a better position to get the information from the USCIS than I was. They nodded, and I have met with them many more times after that, and I ask if they have the statistic - they are yet to seek it from the USCIS. Its just me and my spouse visiting this office, so there is no urgency, or need for them to push themselves to find or act on it.......

Unless, there is united messaging throughout the country, our voices will only be feeble and gets drowned out by others who are speaking loud.

I started a thread about making meeting with lawmakers a priority this year, just a couple posted about meeting. That shows where we are in terms of advocating for the changes that will benefit us........
Just my thoughts..

I figured, I have to do what I talk about. I helped register 10+ members last weekend and many more before. I probably exhausted all the people that I know that I can help become members.

Guys,

Good job in reporting your cases, it is definitely going to help us all. Although these numbers are scary but I am glad that we have an increasing number of people gathering here.

Here is the updated cases:

http://www.mediafire.com/?tasjotoxdrm

Let me know if I missed your case.

My wife is on H4 visa with a valid I-94 (till Feb 2009) but her status will be on H1 from Oct 1st, 2007. Do we need to go for stamping before she starts working. Also who applies for SSN - Her employer and do we need to file ourselves. The employer kept the original H1. Do we need the original to apply for SSN? How soon can we apply for SSN?

Thanks in advance.

How many votes do we have now ?

Dont worry. If your LC still in BEC with old PD you are more luckier than the guys going to file 485 now. DOL commited to clear backlong by Sep 2007. Oct VB will come up with priority dates in stone age. If your PD is very old you will get GC with in 6 months. Filing 485 in July and Aug with very new PD will not bring them any fruit. They have to wait more years. 750K 485 and 750K EAD and 750K AP will result in choking the CIS system. They will feel the challange of renewal on time.

I am very conficent that USCIS is not going to process all 750K at a time. They will definitly modify the processing method, fom current practice. First, they can not schudle FP for all 750K applicants in available ASC centers. So, they will sort the 485 based on PD, and process tham based on PD and country and catagory wise. A guy with PD 2007, will not get FP notice very near to his PD become current.

so, you will be in better shape.


Well said....The reality of situation is the only benefit for people who are filing now is the ability to change jobs after 6 months. As far as GC is concerned, it wont become reality for at least 5 or more years for people with 06-07 priority date

E-File on 05/14/2008
FP Done 3 weeks Later
Card Production Ordered Email: 07/14/2008

No Email/Card after that...

Yes, the majority of approvals are from 2005. There's even one with a June 2005 PD. I can't understand why it has slowed down though.

yeah that sucks, but on the brighter side they are processing EB3 PD's for beg and mid 2005.

Speaking for myself, I'm not seeing the value.

I see IV right now going off and tilting at windmills that will have little effect. Stuff like the I-485 without current PD for example, will serve to both alleviate the immediate issue of backlog, and make those responsible less likely to actually fix the problem, all while creating a permanent under-class of immigrants who will spend decades waiting for their permanent status.

So...when I see them advocating for things that will make a difference, I might consider contributing at that time.

this thread shouldbe increasing in pages...c'mon guys keep calling..
I called top 5 ...going on ...strong..

This is the action item so lets do our part while core IV plays the bigger picture.

red for you from my side too..for judging eb3 folks wrongly.

If we are claiming to be best and the brightest having high skills and inventing then it is EB1 and EB2 mostly. By law EB3 is mostly for people who have Bachelor degree and hardly any experience in their field to claim as EB2. It does not matter you are masters from Harvard but by law, if your job requires just a bachelor degree then you are doing basic work at lower management. Legally EB3 have no case if they claim to be best and the brightest inventors. All doctors get EB2 or EB1. All managers with advanced degrees get EB2. All Scientists and PhD holders get EB1 and EB2. So EB3 is mostly people who are low skilled programmers, people in professions doing lower line work or people who despite having higher degrees are doing jobs that do not need advanced skills to be the brightest folks immigrating in USA. There are some exceptions of people who are screwed by their lawyers and employers by forcing them in EB3. These people should fight with their lawyers and employers or change their jobs to EB2. EB3 do not have a strong legal case to fight for EB3 if they claim to be best and the brightest. It is very humiliating but you like it or not EB3 is grouped with EB3 Other Workers that are waiters, janitors, construction workers, Farm workers etc.

Please check your spam folder if you do not see a email from IV as yet, number of times genuine emails get into this folder when emails are sent through a mass email program. Put IV's email address into your address book and next time it should come directly to your Inbox.

Are you kidding. Kennedy is nothing like Lofgren. He only cares about illegals and thinks that legals have no issues at all. Once the illegals are out of the equation, he couldn't care less about what happens to legals.

I can bet my money that he most likely doesn't even know about this visa bulletin fiasco and wouldn't care even if he did knew.

Where is famously liberal "lion" Kennedy in all this. He is the counterpart to Lofgren. When you are the chair of the subcommitte on Immigration you are supposed to be a leader on these kind of issues. Really disappointing.

i met a guy like this last weekend. came to US 2/3 yrs back. has masters in India and has 5 yrs total experience. not doing any research. He is actually a contractor at a client. the employer, applied his GC under EB1. he got GC under 1yr. I was amazed.
he says, his employer applied for few of his other colleagues too, but rejected. most amazingly, for one of his boss (1 or 2 levels above him) also they applied under EB1 but his app was rejected. unbelievable stuff. i guess the EB1 verification is random.

EB1 spillover may never come for some time in the future. The Indian IT companies are applying under EB1 for their PMs and Senior PMs (req: BS in any discipline + 6-7 yrs exp), labeling them as multi-national executives. They are also making the employee pay for the 140 and 485 so that the financial impact is reduced a lot by a potential rejection of the 140.

This is as much BS as labor sub. I think everybody here knows how tough it is to get EB1 classification for researchers. But what scrutiny is there for these "multi-national executives" ? All they have to do is spend some time in India or any other country as a PM or SPM, come to the US on H1B and promptly apply under EB1. :mad:

I have sent an email to the TeamIV email. Can you send me the form? I will be participating in the DC 10 miler

Indian Guy, the link is
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1#

But, I am not sure if Chintu is here to host it.,

I thought those visas were only for schedule A workers and if you are not in that catagory, this doesn't change anything for you. Besides, recapture still hasn't happened yet so this is all with a big "IF".

I am jumping ahead of the situation here, but I just wanted to see what other members think/know. Assuming that the 90K visa recapture happens, It doesnt take too long for them to be used up in the current situation where there are a lot of people with labors and approved 140's (w/PERM). Not every one will have an oppurtunity to file for a new labor and file for 485. If DOS makes the PD's current / post Mar 2005, wouldn't it be unfair to people who labors are pending for 3 yrs. How does this work out in the previous recapture? HLG doesnt say about numbers being forwarded to the next year though.

Going back to the original subject of discussion - before the thread got hijacked by plainspeak and some really divisive and dangerous viewpoints -
This is typically what anti-immigrant and competitor websites do, they never donate or take part in advocacy activities - like PlainSpeak. examples of anti-immigrants are numbersUSA, FAIR and many others. your game is up, you can leave this website.
They pick up a thread that educates members about advocaccy and pretend to have an argument and completely divert the topic. If people have questions there are better ways to talk to management or core.
There were very valid posts about meeting lawmakers and requests for ideas for a better EB system, which were all supressed thanks to the negative campaign.
Admins please delete posts of PlainSpeak as his goal is to hamper advocacy efforts.
This is a grass-root effort and there is no nice way of getting rid of weeds.
Freeloader weeds are just filling up our Server disk space that we pay for, with their bullshit.