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1] To date there are 60K EB2I and another 60K EB3I I-485 applictaions pending.
2] 3.2K visas were available for EB2I for FY2009.

Assuming 3.2K visas are available every year from now on, it will take 60/3.2=18.75 years for all EB2I applicants upto today to be granted GC.

Unbelievable!

I think you have not yet included those doing Consular Processing in your computation. CP accounts for about 20% of total usage.

This is Ron Gotcher's view. I am not advocating his position just posting for the benefit of IV members who may have not read his post regarding forward movement in EB2-India.

Some thoughts on India E2 movement over the next two months.

More and more, I see people posting messages containing the unspoken assumption that since the Indian E2 cutoff date has moved forward, it is likely to move forward further in the coming months. This is a false hope.

Even with a cutoff date in early 2003, the CIS has sufficient inventory of Indian E2 adjustments on file to use up the remaining inventory of E2 visas for this fiscal year. The reason that the Visa Office advanced the priority date is to move it up to the point where overseas consular posts can take up the slack left by the CIS's inability to close out enough cases and avoid wasting visas this year.

The CIS inventory of pending cases is massive. If there were no quota at all - if everyone were suddenly "current" - and no new cases were filed after today, it would still take the CIS four to five years to close out all of the pending cases that they already have in their inventory.

Overseas consular posts maintain inventories of cases as well. When the priority date for a particular case starts to edge forward and it appears that the applicant may become "current' in the not too distant future, the applicant is told to submit all required supporting documents to the post or the NVC. When this is done, the applicant is reported to the Visa Office as being "documentarily qualified." This means that the case is in a position where an immigrant visa can be issued to the applicant as soon as a visa number becomes available.

The inventory of documentarily qualified cases with current priority dates at a consular post never exceeds that post's ability to process all such cases within sixty days. Consular posts have very high bandwidth processing capabilities. No matter how many cases become current, they are able to process all of them within sixty days.

The reason that the Indian E2 cutoff date has moved forward is that the Visa Office fears that the CIS will not be able to adjudicate enough adjustment of status applications to exhaust the annual quota. They have advanced the cutoff date in order to make more cases overseas eligible for final processing.

This means that overseas consular posts have exhausted their inventories of Indian E2 cases with priority dates earlier than 2006 and the Visa Office had to move the cutoff date forward in order to make more cases eligible to be closed out.

This does not mean that the CIS has closed out all of the pre-2006 cases pending in their inventory. Far from it. When the new fiscal year starts, Indian E2 is likely to retrogress back to late 2002 or early 2003. This is roughly the point reached by the CIS in processing their inventory of pending cases.

Please understand that this is a temporary phenomenon and due entirely to the difference in the processing capabilities of the CIS and the overseas consular posts.

I hope this clarifies matters.

Just before any jumps on me :

I respect , like and love the United States. It has taught me a lot, given me a lot of respect and made me a much better person.
India is my country and I will get back there on some day. But I believe in a world without boundaries, and believe that political boundaries should not determine where/what I should do. That decision should be just made based on what/where I can be most productive/useful for myself and the society I live in. Hence I believe that USA/CA/India all are great nations/societies and we should respect them along with any other countries too.

(Though I would also like to see this forum used only for immigration matters..)
Thought of adding in few more points..

So what kind of visionary are you looking for.If we make the current govt's performance as a basis then is it someone like this:

One who questions existence of Rama , makes a success of Sethu samudram project pulling down Ram Sethu thus hitting the sentiments of the Hindus in the Hindu dominated land.
One who arrests Sankaracharya (both semior/junior acharyas)based on suspected conspiracy angle on Deepavali eve and holds him in Jail for 60 days , bringing interruption to the Chandramauleswar puja that has been consistently conducted in the Mutt for 2,500 years (it's another thing nothing was proved for almost 5 years now)
One who abuses Sadhvi Pragnya Thakur with evil intent to bring up something called Hindu terrorism,conduct 4 (not 1/2) narco tests apart from other unmentionable things.
One who overlooks the murder of Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati.
one who set's up conversion camps in Tirumala.
All of them state sponsored.

(On a side note:If Hindus' protest against these acts call them communal, it they don't call them spineless.
It's like Hindus in Hindu dominated land are damned if they do ,damned if they don't)
Well of course none of the Hindu's did anything when all these things were going on.It's another thing that they don't get any credit for their communal harmony kind of nature. Some how the de facto image has to be demonic Hindus who are in majority in India discriminate and hate minorities.)

Mumbai terror attacks, Controversial nuke deal, bomb blasts in 5/6 other cities.

All other candidates in the above poll will surely give some what better performance than this if made PM.

For those who don't know and who are backing Manmohan Singh he never contested any elecetion so far and he is also not fighting these elections.He is taking Rjay Sabha route again. Don't know at what gun point Sonia Gandhi is holding him but this guy actually wants to retire after having had so many major surgeries all his , one more recently.
Buzz is also that if UPA wins Manmhona singh will be made PM and after some time will be replaced with Rahul Gandhi.So it's all hog wash.


I am looking for a visionary who can bring Indians out of poverty, who can give good education, security, health care and good infrastructure. Who can save us from the unstable countries and aggressive China. I am not bothering whether Sankaracharya is in jail or not. How its going to affect a common man who is begging even for basic amenities.

Do not evade the question, is it okay to limit the number of gold medals per country to 7% of all? Talk about athletics or swimming, not soccer. Do you believe there are "too many" swimmers from Australia or the USA in every Olympics? It just does not seem right... the quota system kills competitive spirit.

Ethnicity has nothing to do with skill level. Consider this also, if no other countries come close to the 7% limit, but India and China are maxed out. Guess who loses just because of an arbitrary limit? Guess where those unused greencards go?

They go to a pile of greencards, left unused and wasted. Wash, rinse, repeat the same cycle year on year. June 07 will be a looooooong way away (if you are from a severely retrogressed country), don't kid yourself.

btw... i was agreeing with abhijitp.

Does this mean they have accounted for the people who will claer the name check hurdle after the recent memo? I was expecting EB2 ROW to retrogress based on that.

Like I said earlier March is the real bottleneck for year 2005. More than 3000 applications.October bulletin has already moved to Jan22'2005. From other tracking sites there are not too many Feb'2005 applications. But we have plenty of March 2005 applicants. Once it crosses March it will zoom ahead to end of 2005.

But it could be September 2010 by the time it comes to March,2005.

or let me be the president of usa if i buy 10 houses.

Jokes apart.. i think nixtor's idea is worth pursuing.



why not ask for citizenship if we buy 2 houses?. I will even buy that toxic debt from banks, if i get citizenship and a gori.

jazz and others did u give ur ielts..if so where???

is it reqd ?

can i submit a 8 yr old copy of my toefl instead?

You may want to write an english proficiency letter detailing the four aspects that they seek, ie reading, speaking, writing and listening.

I wouldn't worry too much about getting a job offer before getting there. In fact I would suggest take your time to relax/look for jobs/business opportunities when you get there. You will be a PR and will have plenty of opportunities if you are not in a field requiring a license. In fact, the best part about being a PR is the doors it opens. Consider whatever interests you and makes good money!
I know several ppl who have landed in Canada and switched fields.

I am finally moving to canada in 2-3 months. Deadline for landing is March 3rd 2007.

I am done with US Green Card and can not take this stress any more. Starting to sell my house and other stuff soon.

Dont you think you took it too far? I dont think you make much sense. There it is, since you asked for my opinion.
Smile - I can prove this is a relevant topic ..how..

Some of these jokers (Quikstar..Amway) have filed GC in EB2 and Eb3 which is illegal, someday states Like Arizona will declare that anyone looking like us should be checked for Amway membership and deported

Profiling is an issue and because of some jokers we all may have to go thru scrutiny.

We should ask USCIS to check all GC applicants name in Amway database and if found USCIS needs to send them to Mexico (because illegal)..

We should write to senators... your opinion on this? ( this way Indiancommunity can be clean and fight for legal hardworking people in immigration policy)

I am an Indian Tamil and firmly believe that both LTTE and Lankan Army are at fault here. LTTE's tactics have always been to use human cover and the Lankans are guilty of using heavy artillery on civilians. In fact not all the civilians are innocent, some of them are LTTE proponents who prefer to stick with them till their last breath to further promote what is called as Lankan atrocities to the world.

I totally support the Tamil Ealam cause, but the method LTTE has taken would have never gotten them there at the first place. As a country, India should have been a bit more proactive and involved than just supplying arms to the Lankans (which was anyways done to prevent the Lankans from going to the Pakistan or China). So the Indians are just watching the tamasha -- and it is really unfortunate.

How does it bother the Tamilians of India? They are crossed between supporting for Tamil Ealam, death of innocent Tamilians and assassination of Rajiv Gandhi and this leads to mixed feelings. Ideally I would want to see Prabhakaran hanged and Srilankan Tamilians meeting their 3 decade old goals.

Grassley bill will not close the door for immigrants but will decrease substanially from 200k(H1+L1) to 80k. But retrogession will go down and those 80k will have less problem in getting green card. You can chose whether to allow unlimited L1 and 125K h1b and 10 to 15 years waiting time or allow 30K L1 + 50K H1b and 3 to 5 years waiting time in green card. Which option will be better for you? If your skills are not good certainly you will not want any restrictions. If your skills are excellent you will survive whatever restrictions they put. They cannot reduce H1b below 65k as that is a part of WTO. So there is no one can block H1b program.

Dilip,
First, the rant on low wages does not hold water. The employer need to pay prevailing wage which is mandated in the LCA. If some employer does not pay that, employee can (and should) complain to DOL

Second, you mentioned that you were employed for 2 days enabling you to file 485/EAD and thus you should not be termed out of status/illegal. If a company hired you for 2 days just to allow you to file 485 with no intent to have a job ready for you in future, the company and you commited immigration fraud --- a bigger problem. Also, you cannot invoke AC21 to switch employer before 180 days after you file 485. So, it still remains a mystery how you moved out just after filing 485.

Your favor towards Grassleys bill shows you just want to close the door. Grassleys bill, if implemented will make it very difficult for even legit employers to get H1 employee. It is a kin to almost closing H1 program out of which you benefitted.

Also, did you ever floated such ideas when you were on H1 ?

USCIS was trying to abolish this substitution. The lawyer lobby opposed it.


How do lawyers benefit from it? Thanks.

I dont think that the per-country cap on immigration is "Unconstitutional." It may not seem fair to those affected but it does not violate any article of the US consititution. The country has a right to regulate its borders; that is its right. We should try to argue that the policy is counter-productive and harmful - not that it is illegal.

--Well said.

I am very reluctant to post in this thread. But could not resist.

Few weeks ago, I was watching TV here in US. The monsoon rains arrived late in AP and YSR declares that the rains have come back because he and his party are now in the power.

With a smirk on his face he says that the rain would not come if he had not won the elections.

He also states that the God was happy that he is in the power and blessed all the people with those rains.

I could not believe how these politicians can portray their self image and how those illiterate or hopeless people fall into their traps.

Now, it seems, the same rain is the cause for the brutal death of YSR. I am not sure how to interpret his own words.

Why are the idiots in here hating on me, sending me pm's and giving me red, it was con(sensual)....lol. You can hate on me but I got it and yes the wine was a very nice 2004 cask cab sauv

don't even think about it. It is grossly unfair to people whove been waiting in line for years.

I don't mind substituion per se as long as people get new priority dates.
IV- we should have a poll on whether labor substitution is fair.

What is the relevance of such long boring rant on an immigration website? What's worse, its not even your original composition. Just some cut and paste from other websites. Cease and desist from such behavior.

http://news.rediff.com/column/2009/mar/27/guest-column-tarun-vijay-on-dynasty-and-the-varun-effect.htm
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And then they say, they are the future of India.

Thanks for the response. Govt sends a check for each child every month ! Thats too good to be true. How much is the check for.

pmt = payment

Government sends you a check every month for each child you have.

Here is an excellent calculator to estimate your Canadian income taxes.

http://www.ey.com/GLOBAL/content.nsf/Canada/Tax_-_Calculators_-_2006_Personal_Tax

Canada has something called RRSP which works the same way as a 401 K plan. However in an RRSP you can actually withdraw funds without penalty upto 50% of your account for purchasing your fiorst home ( In US you can only take loan not wiothdrawl).

Also Canada doesnt allow jopint filing of taxes for married couples. Each spouse has to individually file taxes per my understanding.

My vote is for Dr. Jaya Prakash Narayan. He has done good things as a doctor and then as a collector in AP.

Of course he stands no chance, but I think he started a movement (grassroots) - hopefully it is the beginning of some positive change.

Check out his speech at a Mumbai university.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4xFCdOYTv4 - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q6s1R9iBjw - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6ZHak1lEr8 - Part 3

Cheers.