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I dont think the situation is that bleak. What would happen when EB3 ROW is unable to use up all the spillovers from EB2? The excess would go to EB3 I, right?

In the past 4+ years, the annual H1 queue is just 65K. So the input into the EB queue must have moderated quite a bit.

right point to note.

RE: Jaime,
Well, I am not sure of your reason..but whatever, if you are serious, then join any major tech company in US, and ask them to relocate to India.Cisco,Intel,Sun Microsystems, Accenture,Citibank etc. are always on look out for expatriate.
If you won't join tech company,and explore for direct employment then max pay you might get is Rs 15 Lakh per annum. or 15,000,00.
If you are an airline pilot,you will be welcome by open arms.Aviation sector is facing huge shortage.

Dear Vikki, your words are like cool balm over a bad bruise, thank you! About the 15,000 per year, do you mean that's 15,000 Rupees or US dollars? Either way, I can save in other things, such as utilities and charitable contributions. The mai thing right now is to get into India, but it will have to be in a non-tech capacity (any other suggestions? I am not an airline pilot either, I am looking for a maketing/business role)

Vikki, do you have the fax number of the MHA in New Dehli? I'll be forever indebted to you. Thank you so much again!

i cant believe ppl think this is a brilliant idea..
economy is screwed for a while..citizens are on life support..and you want immigrants to be welcomed with open arms..
did i wake up in a fools paradise...:eek:

You are right, in times like these immigrants should not be welcomed with open arms so its time for you to pack-up and leave. Visit this website when you reach home and let us know you reached safely... safe travels.

Yes, this discussion is not needed on here! Let us focus on immigration related persistent issues!

--What you said sounds very interesting. But it got me thinking, what if the merit is equally distributed by the country of origin and there is a limit to the opportunities this country can provide?


Let us say there are 140,000 EB visas given every year. Based on pure merit and sans any regard to nationality. Don't you think it could potentially lead to more visas being consumed by one country?

What if this country wants to ensure diversity to its social fabric?? How do they go about doing that? I always see EB1 as "current" for oversubscribed countries as well. In my opinion, EB3 "skilled category" and "other worker" is purely asking for OPPORTUNITY rather compete based on its merit.

That is utterly preposterous.

Take a teacher for instance. All he/she may qualify for is EB3. I know some teachers who are worth their weight in gold, they pour their heart and soul into teaching and their students benefit. Are you saying that because someone like that does not qualify for EB1, all they are doing is not wishing to compete on merit? Are you saying a teacher is not deserving of a green card? Understand that this is employment based green cards, for job skills and job performance that american employers decide.

I shouldn't say "Nice to see so many bay area folsk with bad expereience". I should probably use the word Interesting instead of "nice".Sorry about that.

nope. The august bulletin which gets released mid july didn't get into our arguements at all. We were specifially talking about july filers and july month.

Yes, i agree that if August bulletin retrogresses than that affects only august filers and not the people eligible to file in july.

So regardless of what August bulletin says, USCIS can just, on a whim stop accepting 485 petitions in Mid July just because they have received "Too many" and the mail room clerk is tired ? I dont know but it really does not sound like something USCIS can do on a whim without publishing a change in the rule first.

I am sure the immigration officers might have got news about people from India make illigal entry into US when they come as part of some drama, dance, shows.

Many "extras", dancers, musicians have vanished after landing in US.....check any local desi Indian resturant, kirana stores those desi working there are all illigal immigrants....it is not only mexicans but many from northern India states are here as illigal immigrants ....

the easiest way to make entry into US, Canada is landing here as part of a show troop....few famous Indian personality have been detained and proved that they were tainted in human traffacking....Ministers, Movie Stars, SInger, Musical show organizers ....

Many Desis have vanished in UK, Germany, Holland, US, Canada.... {I am not saying SRK is involved in Human Traffacking ...but Indian are and show is the most common option}

http://www.immigration.com/faq/canadianvisa.html#309

Much information is available on the web, just try posting questions on yahoo/google!

Does any body have information if we need H1 to be valid for 1 year before applying for PR. Mine is expiring in april 06, can i apply now. will they reject it and i have to resend when i get my extension...please responds...

this just a fallback scenario i need to prepare.. also can people work on TN visa without a sponsor..

I think TN visa is only for Canadian and Mexican citizens and not for Canadian Permanent Residents .....

Can someone confirm that.... ?

This is why I mean USCIS/DOS was lazy. If there is total visas for the year (hypothetical 160,000). then only 40,000 are available by quarter. If there is 50,000 applications in the que then there is retrogression. Remember if there is more demand then what can be approved by quarter then retrogression.

So what this means is that if there is 400,000 approved I-140's but only 300,000 greencards then 7% limit would apply because there are more people in the que then what can be approved by quarter. Therefore, ROW people would still be able to file throughout the year and then whatever is left in the fourth quarter that ROW hasn't used then it would spillover. Therefore, it would still give ROW people to continue filing and taking the visas while the 7% countires have to sit and wait for breadcrumbs until the fourth quarter.

In the first three quarter the 'heavy' countries(India/China) would get numbers until the 7% caps hits and in the fourth quarter they would get the big chunck...

If the law contains a 'continous recapture' provision( anything not used this year get recaptured again immediately for next year...) then it would not be long befor e all categories become current....By the way 'continous recapture' is one of the IV goals...

Pl. Correct me if I am wrong....

Now I have really started to appreciate the IV goals listed on the front page.....
IV core team have gone through all this junk long before we got started and the goals take care of every point raised until now....

If all IMV memebers ever come to form a political party, people like you should be avoided. For you it's all love for YSR..where as for others it's not about YSR or CBN. It is about there values and what they stand for against (corruption, blood politics, land grabbing and so forth..)


Since you dont have your GC details filled in your profile, I would assume your interest in this website is not related to immigration. You might come back arguing that your GC process is about to start or this is public forum and anyone can post anything.

Now, looking at the pattern of your postings, you seem to bash YSR, Jagan clan of people. (Not that I like them)..It looks like you have other political interests in this bashing as against genuine concern for people, 'coz you dont seem to acknowledge that TDP is a corrupt party. I am sure you are a pro-TDP, pro-NTR,NBK(iether by caste or whatever).

If what I think you are is what you are, then its people like you who are responsible for the rise of these kind of politicians.

Guys..as many of you have heard..Sri Lankan government has led an offensive against LTTE over the past few weeks and both sides have accused each other of killing civilians. And all countries have called for restraint on both sides and stop killing civilians.
UN confidential report which came to light shows the SL government bombing the safe-zone they allocated for civilians since the offensive began. For the first time, besides each side accusing each other of the civilian killings there is some proof regarding who has done what.
It is a shame India does not act to protect the interests of its citizens even after this news came up.
We may be busy with our own issues here..economy, immigration, family, job-stress...the least we can do is bringing to light what is happening to fellow Indians elsewhere in the world..
No politics can justify killing of innocent people...if congress and India can not get over themselves and help fellow Indians..the day we can claim to be atleast a regional power if very far away. Heck, even USA is trying harder than India by using its muscle to block billions of dollars of IMF funds to SL for not caring about ceasefire.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6206708.ece

Depends on your income and number of kids. Check http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/benefits/cctb/faq_payments-e.html for more info. Some details below.

CCTB: Calculation and payment information
When are Canada Child Tax Benefit (CCTB) payments made?
I did not receive my CCTB payment this month. What should I do?
How do I tell the CRA about my change of address?
Can I start getting my CCTB payments by direct deposit?
How do I change my banking information if I receive my payments by direct deposit?
What happens to CCTB payments if the recipient dies?
When do we recalculate your CCTB?
What happens if you owe money for CCTB?
How are the Canada Child Tax Benefit and the National Child Benefit Supplement calculated?
What determines the maximum payment for the National Child Benefit Supplement (NCBS)?
Do the Child Care Expenses that I claim on my 2005 income tax return affect my CCTB?

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1. When are Canada Child Tax Benefit payments made?
Benefits are paid over a 12-month period from July of one year to June of the next year. Generally, payments are made on the 20th of each month or, if your annual entitlement is less than $120, we will send it all in one payment on July 20th.

CCTB and integrated payment* dates

July 20th, 2006
August 18th, 2006
September 20th, 2006
October 20th, 2006
November 20th, 2006
December 13th, 2006
January 19th, 2007
February 20th, 2007
March 20th, 2007
April 20th, 2007
May 18th, 2007
June 20th, 2007

* Note: Integrated payments include the BC Family Bonus, the New Brunswick Child Tax Benefit, the Newfoundland and Labrador Child Benefit, the Northwest Territories Child Benefit, the Nova Scotia Child Benefit, the Nunavut Child Benefit, the Saskatchewan Child Benefit, and the Yukon Child Benefit.

The Alberta Family Employment Tax Credit is issued twice a year, in July and January. The payments will be issued on July 27, 2005, and January 27, 2006, for the 2004 base year.

For more information regarding our benefit programs, please visit the Canada Child Tax Benefit (CCTB) page.

2. I did not receive my Canada Child Tax Benefit payment this month. What should I do?
We generally pay your benefit on the 20th of each month. If your payment does not arrive on that day, please wait five working days before calling us at 1-800-387-1193.

3. How do I tell the CRA about my change of address?
See How to change your address.


Top of page4. Can I start getting my Canada Child Tax Benefit (CCTB) payments by direct deposit?
You can have your CCTB payments deposited directly into your account at a financial institution. To start direct deposit, complete the "Direct deposit" section on Form RC66, Canada Child Tax Benefit Application, or send us a completed Form T1-DD(1), Direct Deposit Request - Individuals. If you get your payments by direct deposit and your banking information changes, send us a completed Form T1-DD(1), Direct Deposit Request - Individuals. You cannot change your banking information by calling us unless you have other CRA products deposited into that same account.

If for any reason we cannot deposit a payment into your account, we will mail a cheque to you at the address we have on file.

5. How do I change my banking information if I receive my payments by direct deposit?
If you get your payments by direct deposit and your banking information changes, send us a completed Form T1-DD(1), Direct Deposit Request - Individuals. You cannot change your banking information by calling us unless you have other CRA products deposited into that same account.

6. What happens to Canada Child Tax Benefit (CCTB) payments if the recipient dies?
If an individual dies who was receiving CCTB payments for a child, the child's new caregiver should contact us and give us the date of the recipient's death.

We may still send out a payment after the date of death because we are not aware of the death. If this happens, please return the payment to us with a brief letter of explanation. See our listing of CRA offices for the one nearest you.

If you are the surviving spouse or common-law partner of the deceased individual and you lived with that person at the time of his or her death, in most cases you won't have to complete a new CCTB application. If certain requirements have been met, the children will be automatically transferred to your account.

If you are any other caregiver (such as grandparent or guardian), you will have to complete Form RC66, Canada Child Tax Benefit Application, and send it to us.

Note
If you are the new caregiver and the deceased individual was receiving payments under provincial or territorial child benefit programs that we administer, you do not have to apply separately to qualify for these payments. We will use the information from Form RC66 to determine if you are eligible for these programs.


Top of page7. When do we recalculate your CCTB?
We will recalculate your benefit and send you a Canada Child Tax Benefit Notice showing our revised calculation:

every July based on the returns that you and your spouse or common-law partner filed for the previous year;
after each reassessment of either your or your spouse or common-law partner's return that affects the calculation of your benefit;
after a child for whom you receive the CCTB turns 18 (the last payment you will receive will be for the month of his or her birthday); and
after you tell us about changes to your situation that could affect your benefit (see When to contact us about your CCTB).
8. What happens if you owe money for CCTB?
If a recalculation shows that you were overpaid CCTB, we will send you a notice to advise you of the balance owing. We may keep all or a portion of future CCTB payments, income tax refunds, or goods and services/harmonized tax credit (GST/HST) credits until the balance is repaid.

9. How are the Canada Child Tax Benefit and the National Child Benefit Supplement calculated?
You can use our new online service to get an estimate of your benefits.

Your CCTB payments for the 12 - month period of July 2006 to June 2007 are calculated using the following information:

The number of children you have;
Your province or territory of residence;
Your 2005 family net income;
Your or your spouse or common-law partner's claim for child care expenses for 2005; and
Your child's eligibility for the Child Disability Benefit.
Basic benefit:

The basic benefit is $1,255 ($104.58 a month) for each child under age 18 (the basic benefit is different for residents of Alberta, see the note below).
There is a supplement of $88 ($7.33 a month) for your third and each additional child.
There is a supplement of $249 ($20.75 a month) for each child who is six years of age. This supplement is reduced by 25% of any amount you or your spouse or common-law partner claimed for child care expenses on your income tax return. Eligible families with children under six years of age will receive the new Universal Child Care Benefit.
We subtract a benefit reduction from this amount if your family net income is more than $36,378. For a one-child family, the reduction is 2% of the amount of your family net income that is more than $36,378. For families with two or more children, the reduction is 4%.
Note
The Alberta provincial government has chosen to vary the amount of the basic benefit that its residents receive. The basic benefit is:

$1,147 ($95.58 a month) for children under 7;
$1,225 ($102.08 a month) for children 7 to 11;
$1,373 ($114.41 a month) for children 12 to 15; and
$1,452 ($121.00 a month) for children 16 or 17.
National Child Benefit Supplement (NCBS):

One-child family: $1,945 a year ($162.08 a month). This amount is reduced by 12.2% of the amount of family net income that is more than $20,435.
Two-child family: $1,720 a year ($143.33 a month). This amount is reduced by 22.9% of the amount of family net income that is more than $20,435.
Three-or-more-child family: $1,637 a year ($136.41 a month). The total will be reduced by 33.2% of the amount of family net income that is more than $20,435.
Note
If you are on social assistance, the NCBS may affect the amount of your social assistance payments. Many provinces and territories will consider the NCBS you get as income and will adjust your basic social assistance by this amount.




Thanks for the response. Govt sends a check for each child every month ! Thats too good to be true. How much is the check for.

All is well :)

Is this already passed or is it something they are comtemplating?

to some of your points, but
is the response from amitjoey not enough to understand why PlainSpeak's view won't work ?

amitjoey response is good, correct, to the point and more civil than any one else. As you said there are more silent readers who if don't see amitjoey's response will consider IV is trying to do something wrong by harsh response (through their senior members/donors). Just read all comments except amitjoey's the thread will give different view (-ve to IV forum).

When some one reads uncivilized comments they don't just think bad about the person but also get -ve impression about the forum. You are missing important point, just because some one wants to give comments so that silent readers find abt people like plainspeak/gcperm but in reality it works just against the forum nothing else.

And when we want to create a professional forum for a reason/cause, as a forum member we need to maintain some professionalism in our comments. If anyone find any thread is not appropriate respond perfectly like amitjoey or report it to moderator.

As a new member (joined just 2008 and read only reasonable threads) I never know someone GCPerm and anything about his/her good/bad threads. So, it doesn't add any value if senior members fighting on who is who.

I am speaking for benefit of this forum which will benefit every person who join/participate. But if a member doesn't bother or care about what kind of -ve impression they are leaving then what is the real benefit of having that member. Just because that member don't care about having more members doesn't reflect the forum core members view.

You don't agree to my views but your response is nice and civilized and that is what I am talking about. I would say amitjoey's way of response (so do your response to my comment) would help both PlainSpeak and every members who reads the thread to understand what is good/bad for us as group.

One thing I disagree is your rough reality, in the name of rough reality we don't have to write rough wording in a forum where we need more people to join for a cause. You may not want any more member but I don't think that could be the case with IV core members. Why, mostly (not all) people who are in this forum will stop working for the forum after getting GC and we always need new members (may be 1 in 10000) who will add value to the forum.

And I haven't responded to PlainSpeak because I have no knowledge about that topic and I am still understanding/learning it. Also amitjoey's response is more than enough which is civilized and perfect (at least to me). Unless I have something to add to his point I can just keep quiet instead of leaving -ve impression abt the forum.

For any cause as a group we can fight with violence (uncivilized) and without violence (civilized). There is always people for both approach, but as a forum member we need to follow the core members way rather than our own way. And part of user registration we all agree to the terms and one of it is "By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws."

I had my own experience in this forum about hateful comments towards me by a senior member/donor. But that particular thread got removed because of so much hateful comments. Once we start accepting hateful comments it won't stop at any level and the forum will be filled with hateful comments. If you feel some thread/comment is not good better respond properly or report to moderator. Why we need to fill this forum with hateful comments when we have tools to avoid it.
My Friend ActAccord thank for saying things the way they are. And i am especially thankfull for the fact that you made it clear that you do NOT yet have an opinion on on topic at hand. People should discuss the pros and cons of any idea and come up with an approach based on that discussion.

From where i am standing i do not see you as a junior member. I am sure that maybe sometime down the line you and i might be on the opposite sides of a discussion and may not agree on an approach but we would still have respect for each others dedication to their point of view.

Now if you have been on this forum for sometime now you know what is going to happen next when everyone wakes up and reads your first post. You will have all these so called senior member (nothing senior about them) and junior members who will come at you from all sides with both fists swinging and abuses so brace youselves and give a fitting reply to anyone who disses you just like how you did to GreyHair down below

I wish your hopes comes true. However, one thing you should remember. There are many guys with PD before 2005 got stuck due to name check, particularly in ROW catagory. This big jump in PD for ROW and new name check clearance rule, will makes tons of 485s become eligible for approval in March.

As they mentioned in their comment, they may freeze the PD for ROW in APril or move back to 2004, depending on how many EB3-ROW gets GC in March.

Ramba,
I see the comment where USCIS said date movement can slow down or stop, but didn't say anything about going back to an earlier cutoff date. Of course, I am pretty sure that State dept didn't take into consideration the new Name Check rule. So as we have seen before, anything is possible :)

got into it, pulled off 3 weeks later. they refunded my investment w/o any issue. but yes never lost that persons contact who got friendly with me for this and we remain good family friends. so there are exceptions.

We also remained good friends with the people who left our group... you know why... because we had no other options as we had no other friends left outside Quixtar (which was Amway before 2001 and is again Amway since 2009)

Not saying that it applies in your case as well... but just telling you from my standpoint..

Difference between Job shops and reputed Companies

Indian body shoppers employ a H1b Persons and many of them are in hourly. No project then no pay. Also because of H1b and GC employer has complete control over the employees about pay and other benefits. No pay in bench is violation of law and both employee and employer are willingly accept that. Because of that employer and employee does not have any risk and employer always make huge profits without exposure of any risk. Employee also does not have any risk of losing GC process. So our body shoppers are attractive destination for GC aspirants.

The companies which follow rules are forced to pay bench or lay off. So both employee and employer are risk of survival. Companies may be under risk of heavy loss when there are too many people are in bench. That means companies which follow rules and regulations are making loss in tough times at the same time Body shops always make money and worst case scenario no loss no gain. Also GC process is uncertain for those who are working in good companies

This inequality was known by everyone including USCIS. So they are coming up with regulations. Some good apples will also be impacted when there is a rule is formed. There is no surprise of opposition as many Indians fear that it may impact them


If one filed I-485, isn't employee-employer relationship comes under a questionmark? what if that company is closed ? And if this memo is implemented, most of the GC filing IT Inc. will be shut down sooner and hence will be a big mess..they are the ones who are supporting for their GC.

Let us get started with legal opinion of Rajiv Khanna. I believe we have strong grounds for the class action law suit for past sins of USCIS - not utilizing full capacity of VISAs for GC processing. That is defintely operational inefficiency. But USCIS might claim that this may never happen again now that the name check requirement is waived off after 180 days.

Around 80 people voted for the law suit. I am willing to contribute $10 thru Paypal on my part. Please pitch in to make it $600 for the consultation. Then one of the folks in DC can get in touch with Rajiv.

Well, lemme give my 2 cents as I am from AP and follow politics very closely...I CAN TELL ONE THING - IF EVERYONE HAS THE SAME FACTS ABOUT SOME ISSUE, ESP. WITH ABOUT A PERSON, EVERYONE PRETTY MUCH COMES TO THE SAME CONCLUSION. So here are some of the facts, some first hand and some knowing by hailing from the area...

I have first hand accounts about the person....There are corrupt guys and then there was YSR...to the extent most of you would not even believe!!! One of my friends was a police officer, and told me that YSR openly used to intimidate them if they did not oblige...

It's funny someone mentioned that he had a vision, democratically elected etc., etc...My other friend comes from the same town as he, and told me how he literally 'ruled' the place with thuggery, force, intimidation, power, etc...

Oh yeah sure he was a doctor...Did he not buy that degree through donation education from Karnataka, during good old days?

Someone mentioned he was self made...He..Hee...He came from a well to do family, and then he made millions more through corruption, mining mafia, land grabbing, etc.

We already have (too much) religious stuff playing politics in India. Instead of separating religion from politics, he took it up a notch...We have govt. paying the hajj pilgrims and now he was trying to have govt. pay for people who visit vatican...Sure, everybody is free to practice his/her own religion, but why should the tax payers pay for these trips?

During the first term, it is a known fact that he allocated tons of treasury resources and govt. projects to his native area, even though other parts of the state desparately needed them...

He sidelined other congress leaders in the state so that he would not have another voice...so much so that even though congress won many more lok sabha seats in AP than in TN, he made sure that no more than one or two MPs from AP become members of central cabinet (compared to 4 or 5 from TN congress and dmk alliance), so that he would not have a rival with power in AP. Forget about the other developmental benefits that AP could have availed by having central cabinet ministers. This is not a speculation, but following the way he ascended in politics, and the way he operates, it's not a rocket science to conclude that...

When real estate in hyd exploded, he had his goons coming from his native place, illegally occupying the private land and govt. land alike. His brother and his goons are forcibly buying private land through intimidation. The sob even issued G.O. retroactively to pretty much legalize and take care of those forcible buyings.

And by the way did I mention how many died since he turned politics into a sort of blood sport in Cuddaph district? People are already talking about making his son the CM. This is height of degeneration...What a pity...

Now you might say, that's how it works in Indian politics, etc...But think about this way...

He was a corrupt guy to the core, governs like a dictator, amasses ill-gotten wealth, eliminates rivals through intimidation and killings...In the process, none of the ordinary people did not have any betterment in their lives over the past 5 yrs. (with the exception of a few of his loyalists) and funny that the Indian new papers (or rather we should call them tabloids) are dubbing him 'Man of the people', etc.

NOW TELL ME IF IT'S NOT A GOOD RIDDANCE, WHAT ELSE IS IT? I am not a proponent of someone dying an untimely death, but I am happy that it's a good riddance from the perspective of seeing an end to these dirty deeds, atleast from one person...I am positive everyone would atleast come to this conclusion...